California's Fight For Single-Payer Healthcare Fails

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A sweeping measure that would establish government-run universal healthcare in California cleared its first legislative hurdle Wednesday as scores of supporters crammed into the Capitol to advocate for a single-payer system.

The Senate Health Committee approved the measure on a 5-2 vote after a nearly three-hour hearing, but Democrats and Republicans alike signaled unease with the major question still unanswered in the legislation: how the program would be paid for.

The bill, SB 562, would establish a publicly run healthcare plan that would cover everyone living in California, including those without legal immigration status. The proposal would drastically reduce the role of insurance companies: The state would pay for all medical expenses, including inpatient, outpatient, emergency services, dental, vision, mental health and nursing home care.

The measure says the program would be funded by "broad-based revenue," but does not specify where that money would come from.

"How can we go forward with this bill without a fiscal analysis, a detailed financing plan?" asked Sen. Janet Nguyen (R-Garden Grove).

A wide array of business groups opposed the measure, including health insurers, manufacturers and the California Chamber of Commerce, which called the bill a "job killer."

The hearing came on the heels of a fact-finding trip to Canada by Lara, who, who along with two other Democratic senators met with health officials in the provinces of Ontario and Quebec to learn about their single-payer healthcare systems.

In an interview, Lara described how his spring break trip to Canada helped inform his views on public healthcare. He said his Canadian hosts acknowledged their healthcare system was not perfect, pointing to long wait times to see specialists as a legitimate concern.

But other fears, such as whether public healthcare would dampen research and innovation, were assuaged by a visit to a high-tech cardiac center in Toronto, he said.

"It was refreshing for me to see that … under a public system that research and state-of-the-art facilities and care can also exist," Lara said.

None of the Canadian experts warned the senators away from pursuing a single-payer plan, but they recommended a cautious approach, Lara said, particularly when it comes to deciding at the outset what type of care would be covered under the public plan.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-single-payer-healthcare-20170426-story.html




This idea could bankrupt the state and destroy healthcare as well. They have no idea how they will pay for this, they have no idea how much it would cost, they have no idea how many people will use this, and they are forcing state taxpayers to pay for non citizens while they are opening their doors to everyone to come.
 
How the fuck are they going to pay for this? Don't they have a big problem with pension retirement for government workers already?
 
Implemented on a state level is a conservative approach.

Im willing to wager it goes well above expected cost in the budget and we'll see some backlash from the increase on state and possible vat taxes.
 
Implemented on a state level is a conservative approach.

Im willing to wager it goes well above expected cost in the budget and we'll see some backlash from the increase on state and possible vat taxes.



Not to mention Vermont tried this and failed miserably.
 
Another great idea coming out of a state that harbors criminals to get their vote count up.
 
Fuck I don't want to have to move

California is already broke as fuck

This is just another case of people voting themselves more money and none of our politicians care about the consequences, just promising everything to get reelected

I could probably run on the platform of "free mansions and spaceships for everyone!" and get elected
 
Who's gonna pay for that?

Texas better get ready cause more Californians are moving to their state soon.
 
Just hope the people STAY there and not move to my state and vote the same type of shit in
 
If this shit goes through, I'm moving out of the state. I'm not paying other's medical bills.
 
If this shit goes through, I'm moving out of the state. I'm not paying other's medical bills.
You already are. What do you think happens when a migrant worker, who has been putting off medical care because he's not legal, finally has to go to the ER? That gets very expensive. And there are clinics around that you're already paying taxes for, as well as some different sorts of subsidized healthcare plans.
 
LOL, where is nancy P at to tell people that you have to pass to the bill to find out what is in it and how to pay for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
lol jesus christ California is fucking stupid.


i feel bad for actually normal people over there feel free to move out to normal states, as for the rest please do not spread the filth.
 
lol jesus christ California is fucking stupid.


i feel bad for actually normal people over there feel free to move out to normal states, as for the rest please do not spread the filth.
They shouldn't move to your state. You have 14% of the "filth" and you pay a lot of money for their emergency medical care.

But of course, since you're hostile toward "filth," that must mean via tribal appeal or whatever kind of magic, that you're somehow still right. Or maybe you're filthy. That could be.
 
You already are. What do you think happens when a migrant worker, who has been putting off medical care because he's not legal, finally has to go to the ER? That gets very expensive. And there are clinics around that you're already paying taxes for, as well as some different sorts of subsidized healthcare plans.

I'm aware, perhaps I should have specified that I don't want to pay for other's medical bills more than I already am.
 
The "illegal immigrant" clause will sink this thing. Universal healthcare is very expensive but it works because people put money into the system, it's not sustainable to give it to random non-citizens.
 
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