California Officially Moves 2020 Presidential Primary to Super Tuesday!

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    California moves up 2020 presidential primary to Super Tuesday
    By Max Greenwood - 09/27/17

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    California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) on Wednesday signed a measure moving the state's 2020 presidential primary to March — a move likely to give the nation's most populous state more sway in the nominating contest.

    California has typically held its primary in June, often weeks after the eventual Republican and Democratic presidential nominees have rounded up the delegates to secure their party's nomination.

    But under the legislation signed Wednesday, California's primary would fall on Super Tuesday, when several other states hold their primaries, forcing candidates to compete more aggressively in the Golden State.

    Brown did not issue a statement with his signature. But California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, who backed the move, said that the new date would prompt candidates to focus on issues relevant to his state's voters.

    “The Golden State will no longer be relegated to last place in the presidential nominating process,” he said in a statement. “Candidates will not be able to ignore the largest, most diverse state in the nation as they seek our country’s highest office."

    The Democratic Party could penalize California for moving up its primary by stripping dozens of delegates from the state's overall count. But according to the Sacramento Bee, California would still make up a sizable share of the delegates available up to that point in the nominating process.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...up-2020-presidential-primary-to-super-tuesday
     
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    California Primaries Move to Super Tuesday
    by Alex Johnson

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    LOS ANGELES — California is moving up its election primaries to join the Super Tuesday pile in a bid to make the nation's biggest haul of presidential delegates relevant again.

    With a handful of exceptions, California has traditionally held its primaries in June — at a time when the major-party presidential nominees have often already been chosen.

    That's what happened last year, when Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton had already sewn up the Republican and Democratic nominations before California and its 19.4 million registered voters could allocate the country's biggest chunk of delegates to either party's convention.

    Gov. Jerry Brown signed the measure, called the Prime Time Primary Act, into law on Wednesday. The law, which passed largely along party lines in the majority-Democratic Legislature, moves the state's primaries to the Tuesday after the first Monday in March (that's March 3 in 2020), when as many as a dozen states hold their nominating contests in an electoral jamboree that frequently determines the course of the presidential campaign.

    "Candidates will not be able to ignore the largest, most diverse state in the nation as they seek our country's highest office," California Secretary of State Alex Padilla said. "The Prime Time Primary Act will help ensure that issues important to Californians are prioritized by presidential candidates from all political parties."

    In past election cycles, the Democratic National Committee has awarded the California Democratic Party 70 extra delegates to keep its primary in June, away from Super Tuesday.

    The DNC could choose to strip the state party of those delegates in 2020. That would leave California Democrats with about 400 delegates — still the most of any state by far, and coming into play at a critical point in the campaign.

    That could be crucial for any California Democrats who join the 2020 race, a group of candidates that is widely believed could include U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris and Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti.

    Even if there is no California candidate to capitalize on the earlier primary, it's still a boon for Democrats, said Eric Bauman, chairman of the state Democratic Party, who called California "the beating heart of the national resistance to Trump."

    "When it comes to deciding the Democratic nominee, our voices need to be heard early in the process," Bauman said.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...e-super-tuesday-stop-being-irrelevant-n805751
     
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    California Moved Its Primary Up. What Does That Mean For 2020?

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    Sen. Kamala Harris Democrat of California, during the Women’s March on Washington in January.​

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/california-moved-its-primary-up-what-does-that-mean-for-2020/
     
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    It's a pretty transparent move to try and secure the nomination for Harris.

    The south and Midwest simply won't support her (her support for gun control is a non-starter for the liberty loving folks of God's Country, U.S.A.), so California is moving up it's primary in an attempt to get a west coast elite the nomination.
     
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    Interesting dictating how a federal election process should carry out and " they must release income tax records to be a candidate." I wonder how ethical this is
     
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  6. ShoelessRye Silver Belt

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    California had it's Presidential primary on Super Tuesday in 2008. They moved it back IIRC to have it on the same day as their Congressional/State Lege primaries because California is a top-two state - meaning there is a non-partisan primary where the top two vote getters then face off in the General Election. Moving the Presidential Primary back to be on the same date as their Congressional/State Primaries was done in the hopes of the increased Dem Turnout would impact down ballot primary races and lead to more top two Dem vs Dem match-ups.

    But they felt that trade off wasn't worth being so late in the process to not matter. Now they're on Super Tuesday, but it's not likely to be a major difference given it's a proportional state and there should still be 6-7-8 active candidates still competing. It will come after Iowa, NH, NV, SC, and Florida still.

    A Cali liberal isn't going to play well in Iowa, NH, SC or Florida - might do decently in LV caucuses because CA Dems go to NV to organize. But the narrative will already have been written before Cali primary happens.
     
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    What West Coast Elite were they trying to secure the nomination for in 2008 when their Primary was on Super Tuesday then? NY'er Clinton? Chicago's Obama? NC's John Edwards? NM's Bill Richardson? Ohio's Dennis Kucinich? Delaware's Joe Biden? CT's Chris Dodd? Alaska's Mike Gravel?
     
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    Brown's got some moxie.
     
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    They already had their big city elitist in Obama. That's almost as good as a west coastal elite as far a California Democratic party leadership is concerned.
     
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    Obama was a total non-entity when the 2008 primary schedule was finalized - 2008 was supposed to be Clinton vs Edwards Battle Royale.
     
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    Then why was he being groomed for the presidency all the way back in 2004?


    Total non-entity.........
     
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    He was a state senator running for the Senate. Nobody expected him to run in 2008, he was advised not to run by many advisers as it was too soon given he only had two years in the Senate at the time. Sure he was seen as a rising star, but to claim he was seen as a real contender and a factor in the Cali decision to have their primary on Super Tuesday that cycle is a huge stretch.
     
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    I post one video, and you concede "non-entity", and have fallen all the way back to "huge stretch".

    Let's not forget, the country is a vastly different place now than it was back in 2008, Californians simply didn't have the same concerns they do today. In 2017, it appears many Californians are upset with the fact that they don't get to dictate who becomes the President. An obvious reaction to this, would be attempting to give a Californian a better chance at winning the nomination in 2020.
     
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    I agree with move. I fact, wish it was earlier. It’s strange that Iowa and NH play this big of a role in deciding who a nominee is. California and Texas should take that lead. Just my opinion.
     
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    Too expensive to start. You'd need millions and millions to get on the air in these states and need a huge network of ready vlounteers to canvass and knock on doors across geographically huge States.
     
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    I thought I read somewhere that Harry Reid basically told him to run for POTUS soon after starting his job in the Senate.
     
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  17. Fluffernutter Brown Belt

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    This.

    In NH, you only need to buy ad space on ONE TV station (Channel 9, Manchester) and you get every household in the state (plus the bulk of households in MA north of Boston)

    A cheap ad spurge on a handful of radio stations in NH will hit all cars and homes in MA, NH, ME, and VT.

    You can have breakfast and photo ops in Keene in the morning, lunch in Concord/Manchester/Nashua, and dinner in Portsmouth.

    For a large state to go before IA or NH would mean that a candidate would need a HUGE war chest very early in the campaign.

    Keeping NH first is simply cheaper for the candidates.
     
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  18. fullmount87 Green Belt

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    If I'm a democrat, I wouldn't really care what CA thinks. They will vote for a liberal no matter what.
     
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    The point of a Primary to choose WHICH person to represents the party, and there are more than one candidates in a liberal horse race, thus the move to Super Tuesday when the timing is more relevant.

    But congratulation, you are now the front-runner for the most useless post in this discussion.
     
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    Congrats on being a douche for no reason

    my point was it ends up being pointless in the long run. Democratic Party would be better served with a swing state liberal as CA
     
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