International The U.K wants to ban Donald Trump for saying they're trying to disguise their massive Muslim problem

[Arkain2K]

all of the above.......but the fear of being seen as racist is a huge problem,not just with MP's but with a lot of the population.

It appears to me that there's no such thing as a mainstream "Rightwing" party in the British Parliament to hold back against this combined flood of Left/Further Left/Far Left/Radical Left.

Even the British politicians and media who are calling themselves "Conservatives" sounds remarkedly like Hillary Clinton (Secure the border = racist. Deportation of foreign criminals = racist. Calling illegal immigrants "illegal immigrants" = racist).

And after watching this debate, I seriously don't know whether "Labour" is just a British euphemism for "Socialists". If Bernie Sanders were to move to Britain, I have zero doubt that's the party he would join.

Usually when the clock's pendulum swing too far to one direction, it bounds to swing back to the opposite direction to balance things out. I believe the political grandfather clocks in Sweden/Britain/Germany have already tipped over and laying on the ground, on its left side.

If the Europeans in the Right/Center Right refuse to speak up against the Left/Further Left/Far Left for fear of being framed a racist, that will only give rise to the REAL fascists in the Far Right, simply because there is no one else.

 

[muaythaibeast]

Britannia is weak. What a shit show. It's the same everywhere, but I can't believe pms as stupid as those get elected. British wit? Seriously? You showed him....

One day I hope nationalism finds it way back to Britain, if only for a little while.

We have some really good politicians, but the way it is over there either Labour or the conservatives have won every election for years (we tend to keep one until we get pissed off then go back to the other expecting them to be different to last time), so plenty of people want a change, but decide that someone like UKIP (who would of done great things) won't win, so they just vote for labour/conservatives. Quite a lot of people also don't vote because they've given up on the system

 

[muaythaibeast]

It appears to me that there's no such thing as a proper mainstream "Rightwing" in the British Parliament to hold back against this flood of Radical Left.

Even the politicians and media who are calling themselves "Conservatives" in Britain sounds remarkedly like American liberals (who finds the idea of a secure border "racist"). And I seriously don't know whether "Labour" is just a British euphemism for "Socialists".

Usually when the clock's pendulum swing too far to one side, it bounds to swing back to the opposite direction to balance things out. I believe the political grandfather clocks in Sweden/Britain/Germany have already tipped over and laying on its left side.

If the sane Europeans in the Right/Center Right refuse to speak up against the insane Far Left for fear of being framed a racist, that will only give rise to the REAL fascists in the Far Right, simply because there is no one else.

No surprise there, the Germans make the laws for all 3 countries. Over 80% of British laws are made by the EU, which is basically run by Merkel. We don't get to change anything without Merkel approving it

 

[Gervinho]

It seems you yanks dont want your politician to even discuss people want. They have not banned him. If enough people make a petition in UK, the parliament debates it. I know its different in the US and if the president think its silly, then it doesnt matter how many people sign a petition. But what are you guys mocking....that politician did something certain amount of people wanted?

 

[Arkain2K]

How can it be controversial for David Cameron to suggest immigrants learn English?
Apparently the democratically elected Prime Minister can't speak about Muslim women because he's white and male.
By Julia Hartley-Brewer, 18 Jan 2016

David Cameron speaks with women attending an English language class during a visit to the Shantona Women's Centre in Leeds
​

I learned an interesting thing from the Today Programme this morning.

I discovered this little-known fact thanks to two guests on the BBC’s flagship Radio 4 show, who helpfully informed the nation that the Prime Minister is not allowed to talk about issues concerning Muslim women.

Spoiler

Did you know that? Because it certainly came as a surprise to me. After all, you’d think that David Cameron – as the democratically elected leader of this country, whether some people like it or not – would be entitled to talk about any topic he darn well wanted to.

But apparently not. It turns out that since Mr Cameron is white, Christian and – worst of all – in possession of a Y chromosome, he is simply not qualified or entitled to talk about people who aren’t any of those things.

So that means he most definitely shouldn’t have been silly enough to raise the issue of the large numbers of Muslim immigrants, largely from Bangladesh and Pakistan, who have lived in Britain for years but have never learned English and can therefore not integrate.

And he certainly shouldn’t have been so foolhardy to mention that, with 22 per cent of Muslim women in England speaking little or no English, he is to spend £20 million special language classes to help them integrate into the mainstream community in a bid to combat the religious segregation that is contributing to radicalisation of young Muslims.

What on earth is this country coming to, after all, when the elected Prime Minister thinks he has a right to say things that are true and that the vast majority of people in Britain think need saying?

How is it possible that we now live in a country where it is somehow deemed a matter of controversy for our Prime Minister to suggest that all immigrants should speak English if they want to make Britain their home?

Time and again we hear about young Muslim men and women, born and raised her in Britain, who choose to desert their homes here to join the Isil extremists in Syria and Iraq.

And time and again, we are told by the self-appointed leaders of the so-called “Muslim community” that these young people feel isolated and excluded from the largely white, secular mainstream society of this country.

How then could anyone argue that it is a desirable state of affairs for these young Muslims to live in homes where far too often their immigrant mothers cannot speak English? It’s hard enough for any parent to keep tabs on what their teenage children are up to, but how much harder must it be if they don’t speak the same language as them?

It makes perfect sense, then, for the Prime Minister to talk about the need for immigrant Muslim women, often aged in their 50s and 60s, to learn English, so they themselves can integrate with the wider community, can empower themselves and help guide their children away from the lure of extremist ideology.

Cue the Today’s programme and their two angry guests this morning.

First Zubeda Limbada, of the Connect Justice charity, which tackles extremism and radicalisation, insisted the Prime Minister was wrong to target Muslim women.

“I feel that this isn’t just a Muslim women issue. It affects all of us,” she told the nation. Well, not all of us, actually, Zubeda. Most of us already speak the native language and while there are of course Poles, Romanians and others who live and work here without speaking a word of English, their children are not heading off to joining jihadist death cults in their hundreds, so I’m afraid their lack of integration is not a top priority quite yet.

But Ms Limbada had more to say: “We have to tackle inequalities of every sort in every context. Empowerment of any sort is absolutely welcome but it’s different when the headline suggests that women must integrate and it’s Cameron telling Muslims. We’ve got a male Prime Minister who’s got a Cabinet of 20 men and 10 women.”

So her problem with what Mr Cameron said is not that she thinks Muslim women shouldn’t learn English, but that it was Mr Cameron who said it. He has no business talking about Muslim women when half of his Cabinet are not women. Or, indeed, Muslim.

Then Anjum Anwar, of Women’s Voices, had her say, calling Mr Cameron’s comments both “unacceptable” and “extremely unhelpful”. She felt “demonised” and, what’s worse, it was “being done so blatantly”.

It was wrong for Mr Cameron to call for more Muslim women to learn English despite the fact that, Ms Anwar informed us, her own immigrant mother had advised her that her education was vital got her empowerment and even though Ms Anwar herself had personally helped organise Muslim women’s language classes in mosques.

In summary, then, this is the current state of affairs:

When white non-Muslim men fail to talk about the problems facing Muslim women in this country, then that’s down to their white male privilege and they should speak out.

But when white non-Muslim men do talk about the problems facing Muslim women in this country, then that’s down to their white male privilege too and they should shut up.

Now, who’s going to tell the Prime Minister?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...eron-to-suggest-immigrants-learn-English.html

 

[FinalFight]

LOL... fucking donald trump... what a fucking joke. America should be embarrassed with themselves and so should anyone else who gives this idiot so much attention.

In regards to trump's comments. He's just throwing a few bones to the knuckle dragging mouth breathers to chew on.

 

[Arkain2K]

British Prime Minister Accuses Donald Trump of Helping Islamic Extremists
Sarkis Zeronian - 23 Jan 2016

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In his second intervention in the U.S. Presidential election, British Prime Minister David Cameron has accused Republican Party hopeful Donald Trump of helping Islamic extremists to create their desired “clash of civilisations between Islam and the West.”

The comments attacking Donald Trump’s approach towards Islamic extremism were made by Prime Minister David Cameron at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, during an interview with the news website Mic.

According to him, the problem with what Mr. Trump and others have said in relation to what Mr Cameron calls “the battle of our generation” is that they make “a fundamental mistake of trying to blame all of Islam and all Muslims for what is the ideology and the actions of a minority”. He added:

“In many ways, it actually helps the extremists, because they want to create a clash of civilisations between Islam and Christianity, or Islam and the West.”

Not only did Mr. Cameron reject Mr. Trump’s position, he also went on to promote a rather rose-tinted view of society, saying:

“Actually, what’s happening is not a clash of civilisations. It is a fight within Islam, where the overwhelming majority rightly see Islam as a religion of peace, and want to live in successful multiracial, multi-ethnic, multifaith democracies like ours, and make an incredible contribution to our country, as opposed to a small minority that believe this rhetoric of poisonous extremism, and many of this tiny minority then believing in violence.”

Mr. Cameron’s conclusion was explicit:

“…what Donald Trump says is, in my view, not only wrong, but actually it makes the work we need to do to confront and defeat the extremists more difficult.”

Mr. Cameron did not merely criticise Mr. Trump, he was also keen to praise President Obama saying they work “extremely well together” on their approach to combating Islamic extremism with efforts that see them “very closely aligned”.

British Prime Ministers are normally more reluctant to be seen to intervene in U.S. elections as they often end up working very closely with whoever is in the White House, but this is now the second time Mr. Cameron has attacked Mr. Trump.

As Breitbart reported in December, speaking in the British Parliament Mr. Cameron described Mr. Trump’s proposal to ban Muslims temporarily from immigrating to or visiting the United States as “divisive, stupid and wrong”.


http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ic-extremists-promote-clash-of-civilisations/

 

[in the]

It's absolutely, 100% true, however the way for most in England (especially the nicer areas) is that to mention it makes you a racist, hateful bigot. In the UK we have freedom of speech, but only if you say what you are told is acceptable, which means no criticism of feminism, any religion but Christianity, and everything is the white's fault, regardless of who did it.
I have invested over $10,000 and a hell of a lot of hassle to leave, as have plenty of others. Look at the masses of Brits leaving for Australia, New Zealand and Canada (none of which are easy to get visas for) and that should tell you everything you need to know. It was a great country, but there's nothing Great about Britain any more.
Trump isn't the first guy we've banned for this, it happened to Geert Wilders a few years ago. Meanwhile Abu Hamza is allowed to stand in city centres shouting his hate speech, telling Muslims to kill British soldiers and Police officers and that is perfectly acceptable (I believe we've got rid of him now, but it took a lot of years to finally do anything about it)

I've said for awhile that instead of importing Muslim immigrants/refugees, America needs to open its borders to European ex-pats, specifically ex-pats from nations dealing with this infestation of left wing politics treating Islam like a toddler who must be coddled.

The libtards are winning in a lot of areas where there are more muslims than anything else. George Galloway won a seat in a really bad area of Bradford (probably the worst area in the UK) by basically promoting Islam.

The election of George Galloway leaves an outsider like me, and someone who passionately hates radical Islam, agreeing with the morons in the Sharia patrol videos exclaiming, "It's not so Great Britain."

 

[in the]

How can it be controversial for David Cameron to suggest immigrants learn English?
Apparently the democratically elected Prime Minister can't speak about Muslim women because he's white and male.
By Julia Hartley-Brewer, 18 Jan 2016

David Cameron speaks with women attending an English language class during a visit to the Shantona Women's Centre in Leeds
​

I learned an interesting thing from the Today Programme this morning.

I discovered this little-known fact thanks to two guests on the BBC’s flagship Radio 4 show, who helpfully informed the nation that the Prime Minister is not allowed to talk about issues concerning Muslim women.

Spoiler

Did you know that? Because it certainly came as a surprise to me. After all, you’d think that David Cameron – as the democratically elected leader of this country, whether some people like it or not – would be entitled to talk about any topic he darn well wanted to.

But apparently not. It turns out that since Mr Cameron is white, Christian and – worst of all – in possession of a Y chromosome, he is simply not qualified or entitled to talk about people who aren’t any of those things.

So that means he most definitely shouldn’t have been silly enough to raise the issue of the large numbers of Muslim immigrants, largely from Bangladesh and Pakistan, who have lived in Britain for years but have never learned English and can therefore not integrate.

And he certainly shouldn’t have been so foolhardy to mention that, with 22 per cent of Muslim women in England speaking little or no English, he is to spend £20 million special language classes to help them integrate into the mainstream community in a bid to combat the religious segregation that is contributing to radicalisation of young Muslims.

What on earth is this country coming to, after all, when the elected Prime Minister thinks he has a right to say things that are true and that the vast majority of people in Britain think need saying?

How is it possible that we now live in a country where it is somehow deemed a matter of controversy for our Prime Minister to suggest that all immigrants should speak English if they want to make Britain their home?

Time and again we hear about young Muslim men and women, born and raised her in Britain, who choose to desert their homes here to join the Isil extremists in Syria and Iraq.

And time and again, we are told by the self-appointed leaders of the so-called “Muslim community” that these young people feel isolated and excluded from the largely white, secular mainstream society of this country.

How then could anyone argue that it is a desirable state of affairs for these young Muslims to live in homes where far too often their immigrant mothers cannot speak English? It’s hard enough for any parent to keep tabs on what their teenage children are up to, but how much harder must it be if they don’t speak the same language as them?

It makes perfect sense, then, for the Prime Minister to talk about the need for immigrant Muslim women, often aged in their 50s and 60s, to learn English, so they themselves can integrate with the wider community, can empower themselves and help guide their children away from the lure of extremist ideology.

Cue the Today’s programme and their two angry guests this morning.

First Zubeda Limbada, of the Connect Justice charity, which tackles extremism and radicalisation, insisted the Prime Minister was wrong to target Muslim women.

“I feel that this isn’t just a Muslim women issue. It affects all of us,” she told the nation. Well, not all of us, actually, Zubeda. Most of us already speak the native language and while there are of course Poles, Romanians and others who live and work here without speaking a word of English, their children are not heading off to joining jihadist death cults in their hundreds, so I’m afraid their lack of integration is not a top priority quite yet.

But Ms Limbada had more to say: “We have to tackle inequalities of every sort in every context. Empowerment of any sort is absolutely welcome but it’s different when the headline suggests that women must integrate and it’s Cameron telling Muslims. We’ve got a male Prime Minister who’s got a Cabinet of 20 men and 10 women.”

So her problem with what Mr Cameron said is not that she thinks Muslim women shouldn’t learn English, but that it was Mr Cameron who said it. He has no business talking about Muslim women when half of his Cabinet are not women. Or, indeed, Muslim.

Then Anjum Anwar, of Women’s Voices, had her say, calling Mr Cameron’s comments both “unacceptable” and “extremely unhelpful”. She felt “demonised” and, what’s worse, it was “being done so blatantly”.

It was wrong for Mr Cameron to call for more Muslim women to learn English despite the fact that, Ms Anwar informed us, her own immigrant mother had advised her that her education was vital got her empowerment and even though Ms Anwar herself had personally helped organise Muslim women’s language classes in mosques.

In summary, then, this is the current state of affairs:

When white non-Muslim men fail to talk about the problems facing Muslim women in this country, then that’s down to their white male privilege and they should speak out.

But when white non-Muslim men do talk about the problems facing Muslim women in this country, then that’s down to their white male privilege too and they should shut up.

Now, who’s going to tell the Prime Minister?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...eron-to-suggest-immigrants-learn-English.html

Remember how the left kept writing off the growing progressive intersectionalism/critical race theory movement as "small" and "outrage porn?" It'd be funny if those morons weren't starting to actually get into positions of power and affect other people's lives.

 

[Thunderflash500]

I didn't realize how anti free speech England was. Actually banning people from the country because of non violent words? Just opinions and thoughts? Yeeash, Europeans should really try fighting for some more liberties before they end up in a left wing fascist nightmare.

 

[RetiredSlave]

On the other hand, the PC brigade on Facebook is saying they will move to Canada if Trump is elected.

Now I kinda want Trump to win.

Im Canadian so hopefully he will deport said brigade to Mexico. As a close friend often reminds were all just a bunch of rednecks up here. They and it (PCness) is not welcome and wore it out long ago.
Brutal, just brutal, wishing that on your northern neighbours, we have enough already and the Mexicans are bound to give em a reality check, Aztec style.

 

[WrestlinganJudo]

I've said for awhile that instead of importing Muslim immigrants/refugees, America needs to open its borders to European ex-pats, specifically ex-pats from nations dealing with this infestation of left wing politics treating Islam like a toddler who must be coddled.

The election of George Galloway leaves an outsider like me, and someone who passionately hates radical Islam, agreeing with the morons in the Sharia patrol videos exclaiming, "It's not so Great Britain."

Newly arrived Europeans have been trickling into this area for a long time. I met a German yesterday that has been here for five years and was in Canada for six years. He said he would never go back and did like that there are so many Americans that want us to be more European.

 

[TurboHolocaust]

Im Canadian so hopefully he will deport said brigade to Mexico. As a close friend often reminds were all just a bunch of rednecks up here. They and it (PCness) is not welcome and wore it out long ago.
Brutal, just brutal, wishing that on your northern neighbours, we have enough already and the Mexicans are bound to give em a reality check, Aztec style.

We elected Trudeau, we deserve whatever scum we attract.

 

[RetiredSlave]

We elected Trudeau, we deserve whatever scum we attract.

Was gonna mention that very thing, lol. Goes along with we do not need more.

 

[UVee]

I didn't realize how anti free speech England was. Actually banning people from the country because of non violent words? Just opinions and thoughts? Yeeash, Europeans should really try fighting for some more liberties before they end up in a left wing fascist nightmare.

Our lefties have made it a wonderful place.

 

[Arkain2K]

I didn't realize how anti free speech England was. Actually banning people from the country because of non violent words? Just opinions and thoughts? Yeeash, Europeans should really try fighting for some more liberties before they end up in a left wing fascist nightmare.

It appears that the First Amendment is completely foreign to the British Left, just like any other items on the Bill of Rights.

Incredible as it may sounds, the libtard woman who started this petition actually brought up the good old 'you can't yell "fire!" in a crowded movie theater' legal argument, against Trump's factually-accurate statement that "The U.K is trying hard to disguise their massive Muslim problem".

What she failed to understand, or pretended to not understand, is that when the crowded movie theater is REALLY up in flame, and those in power are trying to cover up the fact that the entire building might be reduced to ash, you most definitely CAN - and SHOULD - yell out to warn the others about what's going on!

For some strange reasons outside the realm of logic and sanity, the British Left is turning their vitriol to the whistle-blowers and attempt to silence them for speaking the truth, instead of taking a hard look at the problem and fix it.

Unfortunately for the thousand of innocent girls in Rotherham, it seems that their agonizing screams in the raging infernal all those years wasn't nearly enough for the ostriches to pull their empty heads out of the sand.

 

[Arkain2K]

How Labour turned London into a foreign city
By Harriet Sargeant For The Daily Mail
Published: 19:04 EST, 22 January 2016​

An Afghan and I once broke into a small house in Peckham. I had met him while researching a report on immigration for the Daily Mail.

We were on a rescue mission. Inside the two-up, two-down property in South East London, every room was packed with beds, mattresses and migrants.

On the landing, grey and scarcely breathing, lay the man we had come to rescue from this awful place.

The other migrants who were there started to shout at us. Apparently, the sick man owed them and their trafficking gang money. We had to hustle him out fast.

I emerged shaken. I had glimpsed a London I did not know existed — one of Third World poverty, exploitation and criminality.

It is writer Ben Judah’s great achievement to reveal that hidden city in his new book, This Is London: Life And Death In The World City.

A young war correspondent, Judah examines his home city as the foreign metropolis it has now become

Since 2001, immigration has transformed the capital. More than half of Londoners are now not ethnically British.

As he says: ‘I was born in London, but I no longer recognise this city. I don’t know if I love the new London, or if it frightens me: a city where at least 55 per cent of people are not white British, nearly 40 per cent were born abroad and hundreds of thousands are living illegally, in the shadows.’

Who are these new Londoners? In order to find out, Judah immerses himself in the migrant world.


Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnis...turned-London-foreign-city.html#ixzz3yJtXYvMY

 

[Arkain2K]

Trump says he expects poor relationship with U.K. PM David Cameron
Danica Kirka, The Associated Press
Published Monday, May 16, 2016 4:44AM EDT

​

LONDON -- U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump says he may have a poor relationship with Prime Minister David Cameron in light of the British leader's criticism of Trump's call for all Muslims to be temporarily banned from entering the United States.

Trump's comments, broadcast Monday on ITV's "Good Morning Britain" made headlines in Britain, which claims a "special relationship" with America. Trump's suggestion of a temporary Muslim ban led to a petition signed by half a million people demanding that Parliament hold a debate on whether he should be banned from the country. Lawmakers held the debate, but rejected a ban.

"It looks like we are not going to have a very good relationship," Trump said in the interview conducted in New York. "Who knows, I hope to have a good relationship with him (Cameron) but he's not willing to address the problem either."

Cameron has refused to retract comments describing Trump's proposed Muslim ban as "divisive, stupid and wrong." But Cameron's spokesman, Dan York-Smith, told reporters that the prime minister was "committed to maintaining the special relationship" no matter who wins the presidential election.

"He has been clear that he will work with whoever is president of the United States," York-Smith said.

In the interview conducted Saturday, Trump also describes London's new mayor, Sadiq Khan, as "rude" for calling him ignorant. The real estate tycoon said he would "remember" the mayor's hostile reaction to the idea that Khan, a Muslim, would be given an exception to the temporary ban.

"He doesn't know me, hasn't met me, doesn't know what I'm all about. I think they were very rude statements and, frankly, tell him I will remember those statements," Trump said. "They are very nasty statements."

Trump denied he was "at war" with Khan.

"I just think it's very rude of him. In fact it's the opposite," he said. "I wished him well when I heard he won, he's a Muslim, I think it's ignorant for him to say that."

Khan's office said American voters would reject Trump's views.

"Sadiq has spent his whole life fighting extremism, but Trump's remarks make that fight much harder for us all -- it plays straight into the extremists' hands and makes both our countries less safe," his office said in a statement.

When reminded Khan has described Trump as ignorant, Trump shook his head and said: "Let's do an IQ test."

The mayor's office rejected the idea, saying "ignorance is not the same thing as lack of intelligence."

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trump-says-he-expects-poor-relationship-with-u-k-pm-1.2903511

 

[Arkain2K]

David Cameron softens stance on Donald Trump after tycoon secured Republican nomination
27 May 2016

David Cameron moved to mend bridges with Donald Trump today by 'congratulating' the billionaire on becoming the Republican candidate for the White House.

In a significant change of tone, the Prime Minister said the 'special relationship between 'the UK and US would continue to thrive.

He also confirmed that he was happy to meet the controversial real estate tycoon if he flies to Britain on a campaign visit.

Relations between the two camps have been frosty since last December, when Mr Cameron said Trump's threat to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the US was 'divisive, stupid and wrong.'

Mr Cameron added that Trump would 'unite' the country against him if he arrived on UK shores.

Speaking at the end of the G7 Summit in Japan, the PM said: 'I would congratulate anybody who can get through those marathon processes for leading one of the two great political parties in the United States of America.

'It is an extraordinary marathon. I'm not going to get involved at all in the American election – it's a matter for the American people to choose their next President.

'But I believe in the special relationship. I believe the special relationship will work whoever is in whichever jobs in the UK or in the US – it's a shared interest about values and about security and prosperity in our world.'

On the prospect of a Trump visit, Mr Cameron added: 'Sometimes these candidates choose to come through various European countries in the run-up to US elections. I don't know whether this will happen this time. No dates are fixed.

'But I'm always happy to meet people on that basis and I've met other candidates before.'

The PM added that the race against Hillary Clinton would be 'fascinating'.

The row between the PM and Trump began last year after the Republican candidate called for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the U.S and claimed police in London 'fear for their lives' because some communities are so radicalised.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ublican-nomination-says-welcome-UK-visit.html

 

[Skip Reming]

boy, oncologists are going to have a bitch of a time trying to tell their patients they have cancer