Brexit News & Discussion v7: May’s Precarious Position Makes E.U Wary of Rejecting Her Brexit Plan

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  1. Arkain2K

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    Brexit Discussion, Part 7:

    Brexit Discussion, Part 6: The Divorce Begins


    Brexit Discussion, Part 5: The In-Fighting


    Brexit Discussion, Part 4: The Back-Pedaling

    Brexit Discussion, Part 3: The World's Reaction to Brexit

    Brexit Discussion, Part 2: The Day After The Vote

    Brexit Discussion, Part 1: Counting Down to the Referendum

     
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    Merkel Says It's Not Cherry-Picking to Want Unique Brexit Deal
    By Arne Delfs and Patrick Donahue | February 16, 2018,


    German Chancellor Angela Merkel opened the door to giving Britain a unique, tailor-made trade deal after Brexit, pushing back at the rhetoric from the European Commission that Theresa May has to choose between existing models.

    The Commission accuses May of trying to cherry-pick whenever the U.K. suggests it wants a ”bespoke" deal after the divorce. EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier says the options are a trade deal like Canada has -- a big downgrade from EU membership -- or an arrangement like Norway’s, which would leave the U.K. taking orders from the bloc.

    At a joint news conference in Berlin, Merkel encouraged May to aim for something in between. Asked by a U.K. reporter if she could accept anything that is “bespoke,” the German leader came to May’s defense: "It’s not necessarily the case that a situation that is neither already known nor a classic free trade deal, that this situation is cherry-picking."

    "In the end, there has to be a fair balance, of variations, on the single market, for example," she said. “We as the 27 will ensure that it’s as close as possible, but that there’s a difference from current membership."

    While France has taken a more uncompromising stance, Germany has appeared more open minded in extending May a hand. At a key summit last year, it was Merkel who offered May some political cover when she was under pressure to agree on a financial settlement.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...not-cherry-picking-to-want-unique-brexit-deal
     
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    Except Merkel is not in charge of negotiations for the EU.

     
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    Not in charge of negotiations but in charge of the most powerful European country. You think Merkel/Germany will have no sway on what kind of "deal" Britain ends up with? All EU countries will get their say, Germany chief amongst them, their power alone will dictate the negotiation terms that Britain gets. What's good for Germany will be what's good for the rest of the EU.
     
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    So basically the UK's fate in Brexit negotiations depend on Merkel and Germany. #takebackcontrol
     
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    Not entirely, just refuting your initial comment.

    I'd rather Germany (a country that has a vested business interest in one of their main trading partners having an agreement post Brexit) and the many EU countries that want Britain to get a mutually beneficial deal, than a bureaucrat with an axe to grind.

    Your posts sound strangely bitter.
     
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    Do you actually believe this...?

    The French will try the best to make sure the Brits get the worst deal possible, but Macron wouldn't want to piss off Merkel.

    Once Germany and France have agreed on "X", E.U negotiators wouldn't dare choosing "Y".
     
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    No, I'm just like everyone else in the EU, I'd like to know what it is that the UK wants (especially regarding our "border" with NI ). It's been nearly 12 months since A50 and nobody can give an answer to that, as all the UK's positions are contradictory. It's still in it's "Have cake and eat it" mode.

    It also cannot unilaterally change the 4 freedoms and make exceptions for the UK. It's one of the strongest members of the EU but its a union of countries not a dictatorship.

    As above, do you think the Germans of all people are going to sign off on any deal, when the UK has yet to put forward any ideas on what it wants.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43071696

     
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    Well look at the Germans being the adult in the room.

    At some point you have to wonder if France is just doing what the French do best, hate the english.
     
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    Jesus, the EU is going to go from the most efficient energy economy in the world by a country mile, to being light years ahead of everyone else.

    Makes me wonder if the Europeans don't have a different plan, than the one the US and China are running on in solidifying their hold on natural resources, specifically energy.
     
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    I don't think it's that but Macron is ideologically heavily invested in a strong EU he beat the eurosceptics in the French election and is in a strong position domestically .
     
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    Chief among equals.
     
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    France is a close #2 i think in coming years France will have a cultural level of power and influence to be tie with germany
     
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    Germany calls for E.U's finances overhaul, as Brexit about to create a €140-billion hole


    German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government called for a fundamental overhaul of European Union finances as Britain’s exit from the 28-nation bloc is about to tear a hole in the group’s 140 billion-euro ($172 billion) annual budget.

    With a major net contributor set to leave the union next year and populist movements gnawing at the bloc’s bonds, Germany is seeking to take advantage of its additional financial leverage to get wayward EU states to fall back into line. The message is play ball or risk losing out on funds.

    “Solidarity is one of the EU’s fundamental values,” the German Finance Ministry said in a document obtained by Bloomberg News. “This should express itself in the Member States’ showing solidarity in the different policy areas and should also be reflected in the EU’s finances,” according to the policy paper, dated Jan. 25.

    Germany is the biggest contributor to the EU budget. Its relative power will increase as a result of Brexit, which is set to create a gap of about 10 billion euros a year as of 2021. The looming budget crisis has become a political issue.

    EU Budget Commissioner Guenther Oettinger has said the hole should be filled “using 50 percent savings, 50 percent fresh money.” While Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz told Standard newspaper this month that taxpayers’ money must be used “more sparingly,” French President Emmanuel Macron has also suggested that aid should be linked to recipients’ adherence to democratic standards.
     
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