International BREXIT: Leave/Remain Referendum on June 23 Will Change Europe, No Matter the Outcome.

[PEB]

Only Scotland is still firmly in the Remain camp....England (both north and south), Wales and NI are all leaning towards Brexit:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2016/06/britain-s-eu-referendum

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-36553552

Edit - Just noticed your location. No wonder you're trying to make out this is all down to the evil English.

Scotland said if they vote for they will vote for a referendum to leave.

 

[PureDominance]

Fucking far right nutter. Her death will not be in vain... This will awake those on the fence to the lunacy and hatred of the far right, and sway the vote here at the precipice of utter ruin.

Remain! Remain! Remain!

 

[Gluteus Swag]

Just as Brexit began to pick up momentum consistently winning poll after poll

Just as the outcome that was undesirable to the US, EU, and UK leadership (British PM was guaranteed to get the boot if Brexit went through) as well as the banks and big business was more likely than not.

A short neotenous looking female MP is gunned down (First MP murder in 26 years). Early media reports are able to place the blame on #BREXIT and by the time they correct the "mistake" it's too late. The movement is tarnished. Campaigns are halted and momentum is stunted. Sympathy vote for #remain, people scared to publicly associate with Brexit, public discussion in the vital last week is now about the murder. Stocks sore as a remain vote is imminent

Coincidence of a fucking lifetime

 

[Devout Pessimist]

Paul Joseph Watson and Stefan Molyneaux (is he still an anarchist?) discuss the liberal media manipulation and exploitation of the Jo Cox murder.

 

[KOQ24]

It won't matter what the motivation of the Murder was, it will be pinned on #voteleave anyway by the Globalist Media

 

[danny23]

Just as Brexit began to pick up momentum consistently winning poll after poll

Just as the outcome that was undesirable to the US, EU, and UK leadership (British PM was guaranteed to get the boot if Brexit went through) as well as the banks and big business was more likely than not.

A short neotenous looking female MP is gunned down (First MP murder in 26 years). Early media reports are able to place the blame on #BREXIT and by the time they correct the "mistake" it's too late. The movement is tarnished. Campaigns are halted and momentum is stunted. Sympathy vote for #remain, people scared to publicly associate with Brexit, public discussion in the vital last week is now about the murder. Stocks sore as a remain vote is imminent

Coincidence of a fucking lifetime

I'm neutral on whether to stay or leave(but edging to stay).
But I don't think this (sad) incident would influence the vote all too much,less than 1% probably.
Those who want to leave will do as they want regardless of what happened.
Besides,you can't blame them for what happened or expect them to feel bad about it.They had nothing to do with it.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

 

[Toco]

false flag

 

[ICHEERTHEBULL]

Might not be him but looks a lot like the pic the press published

 

[ICHEERTHEBULL]

Scotland said if they vote for they will vote for a referendum to leave.

If the result is leave europe Scotland will get a leave result with regard to the UK with ease

 

[in the]

Might not be him but looks a lot like the pic the press published

It's hard to tell. There are similarities but all crackers look the same to me.

 

[Arkain2K]

I'm neutral on whether to stay or leave(but edging to stay).
But I don't think this (sad) incident would influence the vote all too much,less than 1% probably.
Those who want to leave will do as they want regardless of what happened.
Besides,you can't blame them for what happened or expect them to feel bad about it.They had nothing to do with it.

I think this would greatly affect all the clueless/undecided voters who are still on the fence.

There are many British voters who haven't make up their mind because they don't have enough information to help them making that decision. This murder pretty much cease all further debates on the issue and therefore cut off any chance for the undecided voters to learn anything new through democratic televised debates.

That means they will be voting on feelings alone, and a public official being executed in the street have the tendency to emphasize the perceived calm and safety of the status quo over the unknowns.

Scotland said if they vote for they will vote for a referendum to leave.

That doesn't mean anything. We've already went over that in the first page.

The SNP has always made it clear that they would never give up on trying to break Scotland away from the U.K.

No matter how the BREXIT vote turns out, you know very well the Scotland Independence issue would be brought back from the grave eventually.

 

[Arkain2K]

What will happen to Britain if there's Brexit?
Here are four possible outcomes
June 17, 2016

When the UK goes to the polls on 23 June, it will have the opportunity to jettison its membership in the European Union – an outcome popularly known as Brexit.

But the vote won't say anything about what should replace EU membership. That will be up to negotiators – representing Britain on one side and the governments of the 27 other EU member nations on the other – who will spend the next two years hammering out the terms of divorce if Britain votes to leave.

Pro-Brexit campaigners have said that Britain will continue to swap goods and services with EU nations; those imports and exports now make up about half the country's trade volume. Brexit advocates also say that Britain will be free from stultifying Brussels bureaucracy once it leaves the EU.

But how will that actually work? And what are the chances that Britain's post-Brexit reality will match the rhetoric of those advocating for "out"? Those arguing for "in" say Brexit would be a leap in the dark, with leading economists warning of dire consequences.

A post-Brexit Britain would have a number of different models to choose from based on the experiences of other countries that exist outside the E.U. but still do business with the bloc. Here are four options, with the pros and cons for each.


Norway/Iceland/Liechtenstein

Pros: In many ways, this would be the least disruptive option. Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein are members of the European Economic Area, a body that gives countries access to the European common market as long as they agree to play by the EU's rules, with certain exceptions for areas such as agriculture and fisheries. The agreement's rules automatically adapt as the EU changes, so there's no need for constant renegotiation. All three countries have had economic success under the EEA.

Cons: If Britain is opting to leave the EU to regain its sovereignty, this is not the way to do it. Countries may be technically outside the EU but in reality are still beholden to Brussels. And they don't get a formal say in EU decision-making. EEA members must accept basic EU principles, including the free movement of workers. That means the primary driver of the Brexit campaign – concerns about immigration – would remain unaddressed.

Switzerland

Pros: The Swiss model is similar to the EEA in that the Swiss get EU access in exchange for abiding by EU rules. But the Swiss get more flexibility, with bilateral agreements that allow them to pick and choose which areas of the union's many realms they want to participate in -- and which rules they want to follow. In 2014, for instance, Swiss voters opted to impose limits on immigration from within the EU, something that full E.U. members can't do without violating the body's charter.

Cons: Switzerland's a la carte approach is a recipe for constant negotiation. Even though voters had their say on immigration two years ago, for instance, Swiss and EU authorities have still not come to terms on how restrictions on newcomers will translate in practice. The Swiss model is so burdensome for Brussels that EU authorities say they will never allow Britain the option, lest the E.U. become a pick-and-choose union. Like those in the EEA, the Swiss get no formal input on the making of most E.U. rules. Their agreements also exclude trade in services -- a huge part of the U.K. economy.

Canada

Pros: If models within Europe don't suffice, Britain could look across the Atlantic to Canada. The United States' neighbor to the north has negotiated a free-trade deal with the EU that is due to take effect this year and will eliminate nearly all tariffs on goods. Former London mayor Boris Johnson has championed the Canada model, colorfully exhorting his fellow Brits to "hold our nerve and not be cowed by the gloomadon poppers." Johnson says Canada proves that it's possible to trade with Europe while also controlling national borders.

Cons: The Canadian deal took five years to negotiate, and a British deal would doubtless be even more complex because of the country's web of interconnectedness with continental Europe. Canada's deal also largely leaves out services; Britain's financial industry would take a big hit if the same were true for a UK-EU deal. The British Treasury has estimated that the Canada model would cost every Brit about $2,500 in lost gross domestic product as the UK economy contracts. Prime Minister David Cameron has said that Johnson's depiction of the Canadian model is "too good to be true."

World Trade Organisation

Pros: If all else fails, Britain would default to World Trade Organisation rules for trade with EU members. The global body, with 162 members, sets a limit on how high the trade barriers can be between any two nations. The WTO option means there would be no requirement that Britain bow to rules written in Brussels. Leading Brexit campaigner Nigel Farage has pointed out that WTO tariffs have fallen substantially in recent years. And as he said Tuesday night while squaring off against Cameron, "No deal is better than the rotten deal we have got at the moment."

Cons: No deal could actually be quite a bit worse than the status quo. The British Treasury has estimated that the country's economy would be 7.5 percent smaller by 2030 in the event of the WTO option, because of higher tariffs and restricted market access. And even this, the most straightforward of all options, could require marathon negotiations stretching on for years, according to the WTO's chief. Britons could also lose their rights to live, work and study in continental Europe without a deal to allow Europeans to do the same in Britain.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-what-will-happen-to-britain-uk-a7087771.html

 

[Goonerview]

Has their been an opinion poll taken since this death?

The timing of all is ridiculous .... If remain wins after this, it will be this incident that caused it, because Brexit was has been destroying remain in all of the polls recently.

If the UK vote remain, French and Dutch may vote remain, too ...

This one incident and subsequent bullshot by the media literally may change the face of Europe....

 

[Goonerview]

Fucking far right nutter. Her death will not be in vain... This will awake those on the fence to the lunacy and hatred of the far right, and sway the vote here at the precipice of utter ruin.

Remain! Remain! Remain!

I can see a lot of emotional people thinking like this. "It's what she would have wanted", "let's not let her die in vain" ...

My Facebook feed are already got people saying "it's the death of democracy" ... My sympathies to the lady in question, she got killed., it's a sad thing to happen ...

Remaining in the EU will be the true death of democracy.

 

[in the]

Has their been an opinion poll taken since this death?

The timing of all is ridiculous .... If remain wins after this, it will be this incident that caused it, because Brexit was has been destroying remain in all of the polls recently.

If the UK vote remain, French and Dutch may vote remain, too ...

This one incident and subsequent bullshot by the media literally may change the face of Europe....

Is Britain First full of retards? Not being over there, it's hard to know how things are at a ground level.

The only thing I know about Britain First came from this video:

 

[Goonerview]

Is Britain First full of retards? Not being over there, it's hard to know how things are at a ground level.

The only thing I know about Britain First came from this video:

Britain first has a membership so low that I personally have barely even heard of them .. Apparently they are a reaction to "Muslim no go areas" that have propped up in London, and cities around the UK.

Muslims can kill and massacre French police officers, gays in a nightclub, preach open hatred towards the west and segregate men and women ... And yet...

This MPs death by a lone nutter will be blown up by the media and linked as much as possible to the Brexit movement.

Ridiculous. If we vote to remain, we deserve to crumble.

 

[Sketch]

Has their been an opinion poll taken since this death?

The timing of all is ridiculous .... If remain wins after this, it will be this incident that caused it, because Brexit was has been destroying remain in all of the polls recently.

If the UK vote remain, French and Dutch may vote remain, too ...

This one incident and subsequent bullshot by the media literally may change the face of Europe....

I will try to find it, but support for the exit has actually increased since then. People are wising up to these absolutely shameful false flag tactics.

 

[Kirku]

Britain is better off in the EU.

 

[in the]