Breitbart: Multiple sources say there is talk of removing Paul Ryan

[ripskater]

I am just wondering if there is any working healthcare system in a major country that doesn't have the government involved in it?
I don't like the government either but it seems for healthcare it is somehow needed to have them involved.

There is only one solution where someone doesn't get screwed over by a govt system. And that's for Americans to sleep 8hrs, eat right and exercise, not run such a rat raced fast paced life. It's killing us.

Every healthcare system has downsides and winners and losers.

Obamacare screwed the working middle class.

Socialized medicine has long waits to see specialists etc.

 

[TheComebackKid]

How do you guys feel about a single payer system (socialized health care) paid for by raising taxes on anyone making over $1 million a year?

Don't like it. I think increased competition through privatization is the only way the lower cost while at the same time increasing quality in a truly sustainable way.

Competition will force doctors, nurses, and all other medical practitioners to ultimately charge less for their services. And because the medical practitioners are now earning less money that means the medical manufacturing industry can't charge them ridiculous prices for all of their equipment & tools. That leads to now schools and universities not being able to charge ridiculous amounts for tuition and fees. Insurance companies have to put out better plans for less money or go out of business. And on and on. This all happens because of competition.

 

[CargoKing]

Trump would be considered a third party candidate. He is definitely not a part of the GOP establishment.

Really tho, your previous post highlights your ignorance. You don't have the slightest clue what youre up against. You never took to the time to understand your enemy. That's why you lost in the first place.

This is a great mindset to bring to politics....

"America First"

As I've said before, mermaids are real and America will do well having Trump in office.

I made your sentence easier to understand.

 

[ShoelessRye]

http://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2...lly-freedom-caucus-one-members-reply-awesome/

Everyone on Donald Trump’s team was called in to whip up the votes for the American Health Care Act, which was ultimately pulled from the floor. This includes Steve Bannon, who dealt with the members of the reluctant Freedom Caucus with all the finesse and tact you’d expect.


According to Axios, he walked into the room and said, “Guys, look. This is not a discussion. This is not a debate. You have no choice but to vote for this bill.”


This type of discussion opener went over as well as you might imagine. One unnamed member of the Freedom Caucus replied with a statement so amazing that I am genuinely shocked this much honesty and frankness still exists in the otherwise largely showy and fake Washington D.C.


“You know, the last time someone ordered me to something, I was 18 years old. And it was my daddy. And I didn’t listen to him, either.”​

 

[Andy Capp]

There is only one solution where someone doesn't get screwed over by a govt system. And that's for Americans to sleep 8hrs, eat right and exercise, not run such a rat raced fast paced life. It's killing us.

Every healthcare system has downsides and winners and losers.

Obamacare screwed the working middle class.

Socialized medicine has long waits to see specialists etc.

Don't like it. I think increased competition through privatization is the only way the lower cost while at the same time increasing quality in a truly sustainable way.

Competition will force doctors, nurses, and all other medical practitioners to ultimately charge less for their services. And because the medical practitioners are now earning less money that means the medical manufacturing industry can't charge them ridiculous prices for all of their equipment & tools. That leads to now schools and universities not being able to charge ridiculous amounts for tuition and fees. Insurance companies have to put out better plans for less money or go out of business. And on and on. This all happens because of competition.

Yeah, or they could cooperate to keep prices high just like in the dentistry and optometrist businesses and it won't get better but morons will get to pretend.

In Canada, the system is not perfect but at least it provides a minimum standard of care that helps the working poor in ways your fuck struck pre-AHA system never could, to your nation's detriment. See how well new mothers in Texas are doing for a shining example of dumb-fuckery.

 

[7437]

http://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2...lly-freedom-caucus-one-members-reply-awesome/

Everyone on Donald Trump’s team was called in to whip up the votes for the American Health Care Act, which was ultimately pulled from the floor. This includes Steve Bannon, who dealt with the members of the reluctant Freedom Caucus with all the finesse and tact you’d expect.


According to Axios, he walked into the room and said, “Guys, look. This is not a discussion. This is not a debate. You have no choice but to vote for this bill.”


This type of discussion opener went over as well as you might imagine. One unnamed member of the Freedom Caucus replied with a statement so amazing that I am genuinely shocked this much honesty and frankness still exists in the otherwise largely showy and fake Washington D.C.


“You know, the last time someone ordered me to something, I was 18 years old. And it was my daddy. And I didn’t listen to him, either.”​

Lol.

Thats some skilled negotiation by the trump team.

 

[Madmick]

Remember this conversation mick.

Of course. I'm pretty sure I remember our conversations about health care over the past two years.


Tell me...which one of us do you think looks stupid?

 

[Madmick]

Republicans need Gowdy, not Ryan.

I'm a spiritual skeptic, and this gets a big, fat...

... from me.


Gowdy is the future of this party if it has one. Trump is the death of it. Trump is going to kill all semblance of conservatism, and my niece will be raised in a world with the same bipartisan platform that I grew up in. The only difference is she'll be choosing from Socialists like Bernie on the left and Liberal Centrists like Hillary on the right. Bernie himself will be something just left-of-center rather than the incontrovertible most far-left Senator that he is now (and I'm talking about vote records, not even his rhetoric).

That's what Trump is giving us.

 

[ShoelessRye]

I believe I read that Gowdy hates Washington and was looking to head back to SC either as Gov or Lt. Gov to Sen Scott on top of the Gov ticket. If his DC hate is true than he's not going to want any part of the Speakership and all the crap it entails.

 

[ripskater]

Of course. I'm pretty sure I remember our conversations about health care over the past two years.


Tell me...which one of us do you think looks stupid?

Not me.

 

[ralphc1]

It's fun to watch Republicans fight each other.

 

[ralphc1]

Don't like it. I think increased competition through privatization is the only way the lower cost while at the same time increasing quality in a truly sustainable way.

Competition will force doctors, nurses, and all other medical practitioners to ultimately charge less for their services. And because the medical practitioners are now earning less money that means the medical manufacturing industry can't charge them ridiculous prices for all of their equipment & tools. That leads to now schools and universities not being able to charge ridiculous amounts for tuition and fees. Insurance companies have to put out better plans for less money or go out of business. And on and on. This all happens because of competition.

That has never worked in the past and it won't work now.

 

[Rod1]

I'm a spiritual skeptic, and this gets a big, fat...

... from me.


Gowdy is the future of this party if it has one. Trump is the death of it. Trump is going to kill all semblance of conservatism, and my niece will be raised in a world with the same bipartisan platform that I grew up in. The only difference is she'll be choosing from Socialists like Bernie on the left and Liberal Centrists like Hillary on the right. Bernie himself will be something just left-of-center rather than the incontrovertible most far-left Senator that he is now (and I'm talking about vote records, not even his rhetoric).

That's what Trump is giving us.

Yeah, Trump is the one that fucked up the Republican party, not years after years of mindless obstructionism and radicalization that made Trump possible in the first place.

Classical conservativism died the moment Bush invaded Iraq.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Yeah, Trump is the one that fucked up the Republican party, not years after years of mindless obstructionism and radicalization that made Trump possible in the first place.

Classical conservativism died the moment Bush invaded Iraq.

It died when those WMDs were nowhere to be found.

 

[Madmick]

Yeah, Trump is the one that fucked up the Republican party, not years after years of mindless obstructionism and radicalization that made Trump possible in the first place.

Classical conservativism died the moment Bush invaded Iraq.

I didn't vote for Bush, and I supported the invasion into Iraq only upon trust of my leaders (which they squandered). Even at the time, back during cafeteria debates at NYU, I was wondering aloud, "Why in the hell aren't we going into Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia?" But they pointed their finger on the map and said "there be dragons here", and I was fucking mad. I said, "Okay, then, bring me their heads."

Fool me once.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Yeah, unfortunately the Iraq War just wound up being a prime example of state sponsored terrorism.

Given we want to make sure Muslims get the terrorist label, we have tried to change the definition of terrorism to exclude our actions. Good old death from Rove/Rumsfeld/Bush shock and awe ain't terrorism. It's freedom spreading!

Cuz you know, as long as you're targeting military, killing foreign military personnel is legit, and the collateral damage is just that.

It is all supremely Orwellian in nature and why terrorism discussion pretty much everywhere is framed in an extremely bias way.

 

[second sight]

too CTy to sound believable?

http://smithssite.com/2017/03/26/breaking-paul-ryan-secret-meeting-hour-killed-healthcare-bill/

 

[aitkenmike]

That doesn't at all sound like fake news.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

demagoguery 101

scapegoats scapegoats scapegoats

 

[moneyfight]

THE ALT-RIGHT DANCES ON PAUL RYAN’S GRAVE
With the death of Ryancare, Breitbart wastes no time calling for the House Speaker’s ouster.

For Paul Ryan’s conservative antagonists, the slow-motion collapse of the House Republican health-care bill was greeted with an outpouring of schadenfreude, if not outright celebration. Breitbart, the alt-right media organ formerly run by White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, a longtime critic of the House Speaker, was practically feverish. “RYAN YANKS BILL; NOT ENOUGH VOTES”, blared the top headline on Breitbart’s home page on Friday afternoon. Surrounding the bright orange text were a half-dozen more articles that left no doubt who should be blamed after the White House and Republican leadership failed to whip enough votes for the unloved bill, which the House Freedom Caucus had refused to support. “REPORT: BANNON SAYS BILL ‘WRITTEN BY INSURANCE INDUSTRY’”, read one headline, followed by another citing Rep. Mo Brooks calling “Ryancare” a form of “Republican welfare” and “one of the worst bills ever.” Matt Drudge, the iconoclastic proprietor of the conservative news aggregator The Drudge Report, who had highlighted stories blaming Ryan for the bill’s troubles in the days leading up to the vote, led his own front page with a photograph of the Hindenburg explosion. The headline: “REPUBLICAN CATASTROPHE.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/the-alt-right-dances-on-paul-ryans-grave