Crime Orlando Gay Night-Club Attacked (50 Dead, 50+ Hospitalized)

[RespectableDenizen]

So we shouldn't wait for an investigation and just lump every brown-skinned person with an Arabic last name into the same bucket?

That gets us.....

Spoiler

This^

Cut bait my arse.

We're in a different society. Then, false accusations led to the death of black men because of racial hatred, today we have plenty of examples of authentic terrorism and we all we want is to not import so many of those people into our countries.

Believe me, plenty of Imams DESERVE to be lynched for peddling hatred but we don't do that anymore.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 1 in 10 native-born Muslim-Americans have a favorable view of al-Qaeda.
http://people-press.org/2011/08/30/...rowth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

ICM Poll: 13% of Muslim in Britain support al-Qaeda attacks on America.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Policy Exchange: One third of British Muslims believe anyone who leaves Islam should be killed
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf


NOP Research: 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

BBC (2007): 36% of younger Muslims in the UK believe a Muslim should be killed for converting to another religion (19% of those over 55 agree).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6309983.stm

Pew Research (2013): 19% of Muslim Americans believe suicide bombings in defense of Islam are at least partially justified (global average is 28% in countries surveyed).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Center for Social Cohesion: 40% of British Muslim students want Sharia
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tudents-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html

MacDonald Laurier Institute: 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much...new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/

Civitas: 1 in 3 Muslims in the UK strongly agree that a wife should be forced to obey her husband's bidding
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

1 in 5 young British Muslims agree that 'honor' violence is acceptable.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...onour-violence-acceptable-survey-reveals.html

Policy Exchange: 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust;
Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened.
http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SURVEY/Site Download.pdf
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research: 62% of British Muslims do not believe in the protection of free speech;
Only 3% adopt a "consistently pro-freedom of speech line"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

ICM Poll: 58% of British Muslims believe insulting Islam should result in criminal prosecution
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Global (2006): Only 7% of British Muslims think of themselves as British first (81% say 'Muslim' rather than 'Briton')
http://pewglobal.org/reports/pdf/254.pdf

Pew Research (2011): Muslim-Americans four times more likely to say that women should not work outside the home.
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-5-political-opinions-and-social-values/

Pew Research (2011): 20% of Muslim-Americans want to be distinct (56% support assimilation)
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08...rowth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Pew Research (2011): 49% of Muslim-Americans say they are "Muslim first" (26% American first)
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08...rowth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Wenzel Strategies (2012): 58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is notprotected free speech under the First Amendment.
45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/20...t-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression/
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/10/poll-nearly-half-of-us-muslims-believe.html

 

[Pixelated Porn]

I am not quite sure how this situation puts Trump in the driver's seat. He was born and raised in the US. He was not radicalized in the Arab world. In fact local police failed to act when he called i.

Because people, especially women, want to feel protected. If muslims are kiling people and Trump wants to stop muslims from coming in while hillary wants to dump muslim refugees on us, who do yo think this benefits more? Trump or hillary???

The problem is we live in a victim culture that teaches people to cower before violence. Sam Harris suggests teaching people to all charge at a gunman. Sure some people may die, but a if everyone charges a lot more lives will be saved. Harris says, "You have to attack the attacker and attack hard."

But then he insists there is no life after death which would be more likely to result in a self preserving course of action

 

[44nutman]

I dont think bombing Port St Lucie would be very helpful. Its mostly just white americans.

It is home to a shitty titty bar and Spring Training homes of the Mets, so no loss.

 

[TheFirstEMP]

 

[ehtheist]

You're right! You + your gun = downfall of US government. There, you can go enjoy your afternoon again! Just don't get any crazy ideas about putting that plan into action, since it's ridiculous.

Meh, unashamedly trolling at this point. No argument, ignores being called out on blatant straw man arguments and continues to make them. You're beat, and we both know it.

 

[Captain Davis]

I am not quite sure how this situation puts Trump in the driver's seat. He was born and raised in the US. He was not radicalized in the Arab world. In fact local police failed to act when he called in.

People forget that the constitution protects American citizens. Unless he plans on changing the constitution to take US citizens rights away. People lack understanding of civil rights of American citizens are afforded under the constitution.

No doubt this guy was influenced by radical Muslim ISIS but it's going to require a complete change in the Constitution. I for one think that sets a terrible situation on civil rights.

Because average people don't think that deeply. They see this stuff happening and Obama/Hilary continue to avoid terms like radical Islam and continue to defend them, while Trump says he will carpet bomb those fuckers.

Average folks agree with Trump.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

I guess American culture got enriched once again. Muslims are nice and tolerant people, right?

It's not the fault of Muslims. They are disenfranchised and not getting enough hugs. That is why they lash out and shoot 100 people at a nightclub.

 

[Fraser B]

I dislike the fact that Obama called it "dozens of people" killed. We know it's at least 50. 50. Each had a name.

What if he would have said 4 dozen?

 

[My Spot]

Can we just carpet bomb these goat fuckers already

As long as we standby while our "allies" Saudi Arabia fund them and Pakistan shelters them then it's a lost cause.

 

[7437]

It is home to a shitty titty bar and Spring Training homes of the Mets, so no loss.

there has to be a decent titty bar somewhere, there is half a million people there, and its in southern florida

 

[dissolved]

What if he would have said 4 dozen?

He'd still be 2 short of a fitty.

 

[TheFirstEMP]

 

[Max Power]

How dumb must you be to invent shit.

He's not mentally ill.

He's Islamic and hates gays, pretty fucking simple.

This is the issue. This is what the story is. Others trying to distract with talk of mental illness need to gtfo. Are the 52% of Muslims who want homosexuality illegal in the UK mentally ill as well? Or are they just part of a hateful ideology that wants homosexuals at best demonized, and criminalized or at worst executed?

What did he say?

Pretty sure that this is it.

 

[Slippery Kantus]

Oh wow, you got me there! Oh - wait, you're arguing against things I never said... I think there's a term for that.

"Toppling the government" is the least likely possible outcome from such a scenario and I haven't suggested that would be the likely, or even a possible, outcome. At no point have you shown why anything I've actually said can't happen, or isn't even likely so instead you're resorting on trying to pin an argument that I never made on me. You've just given stupid little rhetoricized blurbs about how I'm like a movie script or something. No argument or attempt to show why I'm incorrect whatsoever.

I'm saying that if a resistance started with a cause that the American people at large were sympathetic to, the public backlash would be *tremendous* to the point where the political powers that be are as likely to give in as they are to keep killing Americans until they lose any chance of ever getting back into office or have to resign outright. An American rebellion of some sort would be won by swaying public opinion, not through strength of arms - and it would be lost the moment the public wasn't on the resistance's side.

Your response? "SHE SAY'S SHE CAN TOPPLE THE GOVERNMENT!" You are the picture of someone who knows they don't have a leg to stand on in an argument but is too stupidly proud to concede the other side might be on to something.

You do realize you don't have to type an essay in response to every post right?

 

[NelmarksGhost]

This is Obama's fault. Never would have happened if he wasn't such a cuck.

 

[scpunk90]

I am so sick of the bleeding heart left! It's time to go into the desert and take these barbarrians out we've been fighting this same war since the crusades it's time to fucking finish it!

 

[MusterX]

you're actually willing to die to protect your right to own guns? man, im sorry. that is just fucked.

Trying to ban guns in the U.S. might induce civil war, its that serious. Especially all across the south I personally know alot of people that will not give up their firearms, not even if it means death.

 

[Jesus Freak]

So Islam is not considered an Abrahamic religion?

Stop it...you're making a fool of yourself in front of anyone with the least bit of knowledge in theology.

Try and save face.

 

[44nutman]

Pam Bondi and Gov. Prick Scott just made 2 terrible speeches.
Get Mayor Buddy Dyer, Senators Nelson and Rubio back up there.