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#EuropeansBlessThey are South Americans after all. Culture of cheating in both Americas is huge.
Only clean fighters left are Europeans like Mousasi, Conor, Bisping etc.
Whittaker has gotten much better. WAY better.Anderson Silva: 1-3-1 / Lyoto: 2-4/ Junior Dos Santos: 3-3/ Glover: 5-4 / Jacare 6-2 (not bad, except the last loss was Whitaker). Guys like Whitaker and Bisping are now elite, but not because they got that much better. I have excluded Brazilians who have more failed tests than fights. If I was a USADA tester who needed to fill a quota, i'd get a best Western in Rio and make it rain.
Didn't USADA start their UFC program in July 2015? If so your figures are off. Machida started to slide long before USADA came along. He's lost 8 out of his last 15 since 2010. Same with Silva. He started to dip after the first Weidman fight. Same with JDS who has lost 4 out of 7 since 2012. I guess they all just got old. But who knows, perhaps the biggest legacy of USADA is stopping fighters from elongating their careers like Dan Henderson, Vitor or Randy.Anderson Silva: 1-3-1 / Lyoto: 2-4/ Junior Dos Santos: 3-3/ Glover: 5-4 / Jacare 6-2 (not bad, except the last loss was Whitaker). Guys like Whitaker and Bisping are now elite, but not because they got that much better. I have excluded Brazilians who have more failed tests than fights. If I was a USADA tester who needed to fill a quota, i'd get a best Western in Rio and make it rain.
Whitaker is young and always has been good, Bisping is just a lucky guy
You do realize more american fighters have tested positive than brazilians right....?
Thank god for USADA.The global consensus is: USADA can get fucked.
There are more American fighters too. The ratio is higher for brazilians.
Anderson Silva: 1-3-1 / Lyoto: 2-4/ Junior Dos Santos: 3-3/ Glover: 5-4 / Jacare 6-2 (not bad, except the last loss was Whitaker). Guys like Whitaker and Bisping are now elite, but not because they got that much better. I have excluded Brazilians who have more failed tests than fights. If I was a USADA tester who needed to fill a quota, i'd get a best Western in Rio and make it rain.
Wrong. He started to dip long before that. He was well past it in the chael fights and it became more noticeable in the bonnar fight. He just finally lost against weidmanDidn't USADA start their UFC program in July 2015? If so your figures are off. Machida started to slide long before USADA came along. He's lost 8 out of his last 15 since 2010. Same with Silva. He started to dip after the first Weidman fight. Same with JDS who has lost 4 out of 7 since 2012. I guess they all just got old. But who knows, perhaps the biggest legacy of USADA is stopping fighters from elongating their careers like Dan Henderson, Vitor or Randy.
Anderson Silva 42. Lyoto Machida 39. Glover 38.
Bisping is less elite than he won the lottery, stepping into the ring with a cocky champ who took him lightly, after which he got his head caved in by a guy who was, what, 45, 46 at the time? But, hey, now he's going to defend his title against a 36 year old several-years-retired welterweight. So, no, not so much.
Whittaker is 26.
So, wow, older guys got worse as they got old. Shocking.
This. How about Pettis, Weidman, Hendricks, Browne, etc who all looked like shit post USDA?Anderson Silva 42. Lyoto Machida 39. Glover 38.
Bisping is less elite than he won the lottery, stepping into the ring with a cocky champ who took him lightly, after which he got his head caved in by a guy who was, what, 45, 46 at the time? But, hey, now he's going to defend his title against a 36 year old several-years-retired welterweight. So, no, not so much.
Whittaker is 26.
So, wow, older guys got worse as they got old. Shocking.
I don’t disagree, but you have to look at the percentage of fighters caught, not just the number.You do realize more american fighters have tested positive than brazilians right....?