Brazilian Army to take control of security in Rio as violence rises

[Phr3121]

Australia used to be a british penal colony, now its one of the most well-run countries on earth. Not to mention the whole "crminal behavior being passed on through genetics" thing has been disproven decades ago.

Refer to post # 58 above.

 

[Phr3121]

And by democracy you mean Socialism.

That was a great video. Yes, socialism under the guise of democracy. But you can't blame Lula for Brazil's problems. He was just the President. He had a cabinet. Brazil has a congress. States have governors. They are all equally corrupt. And the bureaucracy, it slows everything down in Brazil and is also part of the corruption.

 

[Seaside]

Location: Oklahoma

Typical American supporting dictatorships against democracy in latin american countries.

Is normal they like it

Yes, raised in Brazil, Rio de Janeiro, as a kid and later moved to Oklahoma. Oklahoma has oil, agriculture, and livestock. Yes, no oceans in Oklahoma, but lots of lakes. I've had enough of the ocean for a lifetime.

Why oklahoma? You move to

 

[Phr3121]

As someone who knows and understands Brazil, its people and daily life better than you guys I would like to offer my point of view on this.

First it's important to understand that Rio de Janeiro is a beautiful city with a perhaps unsolvable problem. And that Rio is a perfect example of what Brazil is, only worse. Crime and violence are everywhere and all the time, it's constant and affects everyone. It doesn't give you a break, no matter where you live. You're a constant victim of it. From millionaire to poor.... the experience differs a lot but it's never a good one. In Brazil corruption, crime and violence is so common that it became part of live. Is normal. And of course the police is severely underpaid, badly trained and overworked. And often part of the problem.

The violence in Rio has civil war numbers and is mostly caused by drug lords. And they are always going at war with each other. The police (both military and civilian police) can't handle that level of aggression and violence. The morros, favelas are seen as territories by these drug lords and they don't ever allow the police to get there without a fight. Police officers die all the time trying to do their jobs. Honest people die all the time. Or are hurt by a gun shot. It's actually common to hear AK47 shots in Rio. This is not your typical urban violence. They have a fucking army trying to take over the city, it's not a fair fight for the police.

This is not a step towards another dictatorship it's simply a much needed acknowledgement that things have gone too far and that it needs to end. People have been asking for that for years now and I'm sure a lot are finally happy. Imagine living in a place where you're constantly in fear? I hope they do a good job and help the people in the favelas to finally have a some peace. Fuck Rio man, they have as much beauty as they have tragedy.

That was a good write up, but I don't agree with some of your points.

. The problem in Rio is solvable. If the Brazilian Army can't handle 'favela' criminals, how are they suppose to fight a war to defend the country? That level of aggression is nothing compared to war. And Rio is not the most violent city in Brazil. The state of 'Acre' in North West Brazil is like the American West in the 1880s. Completely lawless. Other states like 'Santa Catarina' and 'Rio Grande do Sul' in Southern Brazil are a lot more developed and peaceful.
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. "Rio’s homicide rate of around 32 per 100,000 residents remains far below its 1990s peak. It is also far lower than that of several other Brazilian states, leading some observers to speculate that the decree was designed to distract attention from Mr. Temer’s losing battle to push a social-security reform bill through Congress this month."

. "The decree was likely influenced by the ruling party’s desire to capitalize on growing public concern with crime in an election year, noting that Brazil’s largest media company, Globo, is based in Rio and has focused its news coverage heavily on crime there."

 

[Seaside]

Story: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/16/brazilian-army-rio-de-janeiro-michel-temer

It is about fucking time. Other than the Olympics and the World Cup, this is the first time the military is deployed for a non major world event. The country has slowly drifted downward since a comeback to democracy in 1985. Corruption, crime, and violence has ruled the city for decades. Political corruption at the state and federal level is unprecedented. Bring back military rule - democracy has not worked in Brazil.

"Brazilian president Michel Temer has signed a decree putting the military in charge of security in Rio de Janeiro, following a rise in street crime and drug gang violence. Massed robberies and gunfights during carnival, followed by a storm that killed four and caused chaos, have heightened a sense that the city is slipping out of control."

“I am taking this extreme measure because the circumstances demand it,” Temer said after signing the decree on Friday. “Enough.”

"The Army has operated in Rio during the last year and did so during the Olympics and the World Cup. But Temer’s decree will also put the Army in charge of the city’s police force – the first time Brazil has taken such a decision since it introduced a new constitution in 1988 following two decades of military dictatorship."

"Military intervention is a fraught subject for many Brazilians, though many on the far right increasingly support a return to a military government."

"In 2015, Brazil had a murder rate of 25.2 per 100,000 population. There were a total of 50,108 murders in Brazil in 2015. Another study has the 2015 murder rate at 32.4 per 100,000, with 64,357 homicides."

"150 police officers were killed in Rio de Janeiro alone in 2017. Rio’s police kill and die more than any other force in Brazil."

Jair bolsonaro for president!!

 

[Prutfis]

British descendants. Can't go wrong with being British. Portugal is much further down the list.

I guess you don´t know how the British are viewed in Europe. Most hated tourists by far. Fucking hooligans. I think Aussies just evolved from the British.

 

[HockeyBjj]

Jair bolsonaro for president!!

I will never understand people who go hunting and dog up old threads just to make some useless generic post

 

[Seaside]

I will never understand people who go hunting and dog up old threads just to make some useless generic post

I did not mean to. I uploaded war room and I dont know what happened but I saw old treads and saw this clicked and commented without checking. I didnt know thoufh

 

[therealdope]

why would democracy not work there out of curiosity? What went wrong?

TBF this sounds like early 90s Washington, DC where they had to mobilize the national guard to patrol the streets at night because of violence. I think Bush had to call them in, in 1989 as well.

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-10-23/news/mn-48867_1_national-guard


This article may wake some people up to just how horrible inner city drug crime was in the late 80s.

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/23/magazine/dc-s-war-on-drugs-why-bennett-is-losing.html

 

[Neph]

I guess you don´t know how the British are viewed in Europe. Most hated tourists by far. Fucking hooligans. I think Aussies just evolved from the British.

 

[Billy no mates]

Who cares what the gaylords on the continent think , cafe culture is boring as fuck 'a pint and fight is a Great British night' .

 

[Seaside]

Who cares what the gaylords on the continent think , cafe culture is boring as fuck 'a pint and fight is a Great British night' .

Last i heard british people get arrested for speaking mean things of muslims and cannot exrcute or arrest pedophiles. Not really tough

 

[Billy no mates]

Last i heard british people get arrested for speaking mean things of muslims and cannot exrcute or arrest pedophiles. Not really tough

You're bang on the money mate there are actually laws obliging us to help pedos and suicide bombers .

 

[grihenrumet]

Brazil is a dump

Hmm maybe but it's worth the risk of of dying like a DaSilva (the one's you find on bestgore.com) for this

https://www.google.com/search?q=bra...XL5oMKHYGABEwQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1589&bih=577

 

[Lord Coke]

why would democracy not work there out of curiosity? What went wrong?

they have mandatory voting. That forces people that are completely uninformed to vote.

 

[Neph]

they have mandatory voting. That forces people that are completely uninformed to vote.

Australia has compulsory voting

 

[DespicablePeep]

Intervation is not working lol, the guy got shot in the leg because he took too much time to get off the bike.

If this sort of video is not allowed please remove

Don´t visit Rio or BR people stay safe

 

[MadSquabbles500]

Brazil's 2nd greatest export

Wait a second, what is their first best export? Gisele, Adriana Lima?

 

[44nutman]

Wait a second, what is their first best export? Gisele, Adriana Lima?

I lumped all Brazilian asses as number 1.