- Joined
- Nov 20, 2002
- Messages
- 11,961
- Reaction score
- 9,004
Glad to see Rooker get some love with GotG.
Thank you. You da real MVP.
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2010
- Messages
- 49,143
- Reaction score
- 31,095
Huh? I thought she was trained personally by Lee Strasberg.
G
Guestx
Guest
Lemme ask you BMMA, how do you feel that Rousey's acting compares to Carano's?
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2010
- Messages
- 49,143
- Reaction score
- 31,095
Well, should I average the total bodies of work that I've seen, including stuff like commercials and wrestling promos? Or just film performances?
- Joined
- Feb 6, 2009
- Messages
- 61,022
- Reaction score
- 359
Trying too hard to act tough and it didn't work.
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2010
- Messages
- 49,143
- Reaction score
- 31,095
Opens the scene with a fake scoffing expression to flatline everything before she even starts.
G
Guestx
Guest
Does it matter?
- Joined
- Feb 6, 2009
- Messages
- 61,022
- Reaction score
- 359
Acting's not as easy as people think or all these fighter's would succeed.
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2010
- Messages
- 49,143
- Reaction score
- 31,095
If you actually want a serious answer, I suppose it would make a slight difference. Anyway, I'll answer this and explain it for real but not if you really don't give shit.
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2010
- Messages
- 49,143
- Reaction score
- 31,095
MMA has provided the world's best evidence for the difficulties of acting.
G
Guestx
Guest
I really am curious.
- Joined
- Feb 13, 2014
- Messages
- 35,147
- Reaction score
- 945
G
Guestx
Guest
The Exorcism of Emily Rose was a better Exorcist sequel than The Exorcist III was.
- Joined
- Feb 13, 2014
- Messages
- 35,147
- Reaction score
- 945
stupidest shit you have ever said
G
Guestx
Guest
There's a reason EX3 only has a 55% on RT.
Not that the RT score is always right, but in this case, it is.
- Joined
- Feb 13, 2014
- Messages
- 35,147
- Reaction score
- 945
- Joined
- Feb 6, 2009
- Messages
- 61,022
- Reaction score
- 359
Acting is one of the toughest business to make a living. My friend moved to LA to pursue a career in the industry. Found out years later she was working as a prostitute.
G
Guestx
Guest
You still haven't actually provided reasons for your statement.
I mean, if you're going to go around saying The Exorcist III is better than the first film then you need to have an argument prepared. Or at least some fucking bullet points.
- Joined
- Jun 25, 2012
- Messages
- 4,972
- Reaction score
- 360
Agree or disagree?
I think Brad Dourif is one of those actors who makes any film he appears in better just by performing in it.
Doesn't matter if he voices a killer doll.
Or you throw him in a Western.
Or you turn him into a Sherriff.
He always elevates the material. I think he's one of those guys whose talent and efforts deserve more credit than they've gotten.
Ah, big smile on my face seeing this thread. 2 favorites of mine from Brad
He is such a bad ass in these 2 movies it is awesome. Great performance, especially in death machine
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2010
- Messages
- 49,143
- Reaction score
- 31,095
Well, I'll preface this by saying that I've never seen anything with either one of them (Carano or Rousey) more than one time, and I'm going by memory on the details. And I don't really make an effort to keep the nuances of Rousey and Carano performances secure in my memory.
The short answer would be that they've given about the same level of performance as far as I'm concerned, that being unacceptable and about equally so. But I think Carano has faced a higher degree of difficulty in delivering this low level. She has faced more unique challenges and burdens with her performances and hasn't sunk any lower than Rousey while doing them. I can't prove that Rousey would do worse in these situations, but I predict that she would sink to an even lower level in those situations. So if Carano gives (and has given) a D- performance in a given scene or situation, I am guessing that Rousey would probably show up and give an F performance. They've both risen to (and no higher than), in my opinion, the level of "not really hurting anything at the moment."
I guess I'll start with Carano...
She came in and got hand-held through her first movie by one of the top directors in Hollywood, who has directed Oscar worthy performances. She also had the huge benefit of delivering her scenes mostly with legitimate masters of acting, the whole way through. She wasn't trading lines with some dead fish. It was Ewan McGregor and Michael Fassbender, Bill Paxton and Michael Douglas. And I'm willing to bet Soderbergh paid more attention to her scenes and gave her more guidance and acting direction than he's had to do, or been willing to do, with anyone in decades.
And the result was that her performance was way, way worse than Carrie Henn in her debut role. Way, way worse than Edward Furlong.
How do I think Rousey would have done under the same circumstances? I think she'd also crumple under the burden of carrying a movie, also probably have problems looking at the camera with that many scenes and also have been a green screen for Fassbender and McGregor to act against. I think she would have been just as bad, but also much more annoying and hard to watch for that much time.
What I've seen from Carano since is very little improvement, and also more problems when she's faced with specific demands. I remember she had a phone acting scene in that shitty movie The Heist and the phone acting was about as bad as it gets.
She was okay at being ambience or imposing scenery in Deadpool, but didn't succeed at anything beyond that. When she had to talk or react to lines, it wasn't very good. And she was OKAY at being ambience / scenery. Keith Jardine is GOOD at being ambience / scenery.
I don't think Carano really brings anything to the table acting wise. Her performances are consistently bad and take me out of the movie and out of the scene. But I guess she isn't a truly annoying presence on the screen, which is...better than nothing.
As for Rousey, she has probably barely scraped her way up to "not hurting anything for the moment" and has delivered consistently bad, bad acting on screen. But she has also never had Steven Soderbergh walking her through things. The director of Expendables 3 was Patrick Hughes. Shrug. I'd say that having Stallone around should have been a guiding factor, but not on those fucking Expendables movies. Stallone is one of the best writers and directors in the business, but he's like BJ Penn, and all three Expendables movies were unmotivated Stallone.
That said, the demands on Rousey for Expendables 3 with her lines and reactions were pretty light, going by memory, and she fell short. And nothing else I've seen is any better.
Now, if she could maintain her shitty level of normal acting through a fake phone conversation, then she would be better than Carano was in that one regard. But do I think Rousey would fuck it up even worse? Probably.
As for stuff outside of movies, there was SNL and some god awful wrestling promos on the street (where I can't really blame her for being utter dog shit as there was possibly no script or director, and her acting companions were Marina Shafir and Shayna Baszler and such). I'd give that performance literally a zero out of ten, but I guess I can ignore it, even though it was done after all of her movies and SNL etc. And there was some terrible computer service company commercial from around when she started in the UFC. I guess I'll ignore that too.
So what have I seen from both? They both range from occasional moments of "C" level, all the way down to F. Maybe C minus at best for Rousey, and only for passing moments. But I think the worst moments I've seen on film from Carano were probably a little worse than the worst I've seen from Rousey.
I think if Rousey had been in all of the situations Carano has been in, she would have delivered even worse results, but I can't really prove it. I think if she had actually remade Road House and had to carry the film as the lead character, it would have been absolutely unbearable. Even as a second lead in that Wahlberg movie, it would have been unwatchable.
So...my best guess is that Carano is the slightly better actor. I mean, I can't really make an apples to apples comparison based on what I've seen. But if I had to bet on who would do better with any given role, I suppose I'd pick Carano.
