Boxing Is Not Easier Than MMA (Luke Thomas point)

A guy who never boxed in his life on a pro lever fought the best in the world, and took him 10 rounds, and won rounds. And stop with all the excuses. He's 40, retired, carried. Matt Serra Serra is 43, and hasn't fought in 7 years. Let's see Lomachanko come in and go 10 rounds and win 3 of them. He won't last a minute.

What happened when Michael Page , an MMA fighter decided to go to boxing.




And what happened when pro boxer, Heather Hardy, undefeated champion came to MMA?
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She lost her nose.

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Her opponent, a ta kwondo champion, never took her down once. She stood and banged. Kept her distance from the punches and just kicked the shit out of her. That's all you have to do to a pro boxer. They can't do shit without boxing rules against any martial artist, or wrestler.

And whoever tries to bring up Holly Holm she was a kickboxer before she was a boxer. 6 amateur fights, undefeated, and 3 pro fights, 2-1. And her trainer was the same guy, her whole career. An MMA guy, and pro kick boxer. Never a boxer.

Sorry, but this is silly.
Floyd has never been a knockout artist. He is a defensive fighter. If you think Conor "won" anything there, then you don't know anything about boxing. I'm a Conor fan, and all things considered, he did a great job. But Floyd was in complete control of that fight the entire time. Conor won rounds that Floyd allowed him to win. Floyd literally threw no punches in a couple rounds.

Boxing and MMA are different. It is just stupid to compare the two sports.
Boxing isn't easier than MMA, and vice versa.
"Who would win in a fight/Who could come over to the other's discipline and do damage" are completely different questions.
 
Ok everyones getting really insecure in this thread so lets have a reality check.

Among all sports both MMA and boxing are relatively low in how difficult it is for the average person to become elite. There several examples of guys starting in their late teens or early 20's (Deontay Wilder, Damien Maia) and going on to world class status. This is quite simply impossible in many other sports regardless of how hard you work.

Gymnastics: If you didn't start at 3 and don't happen to be tiny you CAN"T succeed.
Basketball: Under 6'3?? Not black? You are almost certainly fucked. If you start playing after high school you will probably never even become competent in pick up games.
100m dash: LOL
Bodybuilding: 90% genetics. If you happen to have short muscle insertions you're fucked.
Competitve Call of Duty: Starting at 20? You will NEVER be able to develop the the fine motor skills that these little 12 years have been absorbing into their sponge like brains. They're going to say that they fucked your mom and you can do nothing but take it and offer them prima nocta on your wedding night.

Now does all of this mean that boxing and MMA are inferior to these sports? No, they're all different and for whatever reason we like the ones that we like. There's no need to get all insecure if someone feels differently and make posts that really are subconsciously about your penis.

This guy gets it.

Also professional gaming is no joke probably harder to make it to the top than MMA. I bet your average joe would have a higher percentage chance of making it into the top 20 for his weight class in MMA than the top 20 of the most popular Esports.
 
You can learn how to box easier, just not at a high competitive level, that takes years, but just because it is harder to perfect boxing doesn't mean it is in anyway more useful in hand 2 hand combat.
MMA is more fun to watch, more useful for self defense. And technically if someone were to devote a quarter as much time into every individual aspect of MMA as a high level pro boxer devotes to boxing, then yes, the MMA fighter has worked much harder.
 
A guy who never boxed in his life on a pro lever fought the best in the world, and took him 10 rounds, and won rounds. And stop with all the excuses. He's 40, retired, carried. Matt Serra Serra is 43, and hasn't fought in 7 years. Let's see Lomachanko come in and go 10 rounds and win 3 of them. He won't last a minute.

What happened when Michael Page , an MMA fighter decided to go to boxing.




And what happened when pro boxer, Heather Hardy, undefeated champion came to MMA?
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She lost her nose.

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Her opponent, a ta kwondo champion, never took her down once. She stood and banged. Kept her distance from the punches and just kicked the shit out of her. That's all you have to do to a pro boxer. They can't do shit without boxing rules against any martial artist, or wrestler.

And whoever tries to bring up Holly Holm she was a kickboxer before she was a boxer. 6 amateur fights, undefeated, and 3 pro fights, 2-1. And her trainer was the same guy, her whole career. An MMA guy, and pro kick boxer. Never a boxer.



the guy that fought VENOM Page is 2-12 you NUMBNUTS
 
Ugh. This is simple. To box you throw punches. That means any sherdogger out there can go box.

In MMA you have to "learn" wrestling and subs and kicks etc.

To be a Floyd of course it takes a lifetime. Same to be a GSP. In anything you can learn your whole life and get better. We are talking the "amount" of things to learn. Taking a stiff punch and then having someone try to choke you to death requires a lot of years to master. It is a bit different than taking a stiff punch and then a 10 count.
 
Ugh. This is simple. To box you throw punches. That means any sherdogger out there can go box.

In MMA you have to "learn" wrestling and subs and kicks etc.

To be a Floyd of course it takes a lifetime. Same to be a GSP. In anything you can learn your whole life and get better. We are talking the "amount" of things to learn. Taking a stiff punch and then having someone try to choke you to death requires a lot of years to master. It is a bit different than taking a stiff punch and then a 10 count.
carwin and stipe got to the very top of the hw division and had a 9 to 5 on the side. Brock went from wwe to the ufc and became champ in his 30s. No chance in hell you can do that in boxing. Mma is nowhere near as demanding as boxing to become elite.
 
carwin and stipe got to the very top of the hw division and had a 9 to 5 on the side. Brock went from wwe to the ufc and became champ in his 30s. No chance in hell you can do that in boxing. Mma is nowhere near as demanding as boxing to become elite.
How many years did it take Tyson to become the best boxer in the world. 4? And while he was a teen screwing around going to school and doing kid shit? All it takes for boxing is to be blessed by nature. In MMA you have to learn the skills.
 
How hard any form of competition is is based on how many people are trying to make it to the top.

Not at all... the most intense of competetions have the most brutal barriers to entry
 
How many years did it take Tyson to become the best boxer in the world. 4? And while he was a teen screwing around going to school and doing kid shit? All it takes for boxing is to be blessed by nature. In MMA you have to learn the skills.
you are delusional if you dont think that it takes years of practice to become a top boxer. Tyson picked up boxng at 12, btw.
Brawk picked up mma at 30 and became champ in less than 2 years lol. Dc and Handy picked up mma in their mid 30s and are the biggest names of the sport. Again, Carwin took mma as a part time thing and knocked fools around. Just look at wmma for fucks sake.

Mayweather, Pacman, Canelo , Cotto , Ggg and many others have an insane work ethic. Just look at the goat Mcgregor who cant even go 5 mma rounds, boxers have a whole different type of conditioning, you think that is a gift from gawd?.... hell no! you have to train your ass off....
Man i could go for hours proving your statement wrong....but hey , thats your opinion and thats it. To each its own.
 
you are delusional if you dont think that it takes years of practice to become a top boxer. Tyson picked up boxng at 12, btw.
Brawk picked up mma at 30 and became champ in less than 2 years lol. Dc and Handy picked up mma in their mid 30s and are the biggest names of the sport. Again, Carwin took mma as a part time thing and knocked fools around. Just look at wmma for fucks sake.

Mayweather, Pacman, Canelo , Cotto , Ggg and many others have an insane work ethic. Just look at the goat Mcgregor who cant even go 5 mma rounds, boxers have a whole different type of conditioning, you think that is a gift from gawd?.... hell no! you have to train your ass off....
Man i could go for hours proving your statement wrong....but hey , thats your opinion. To each its own.
Well, it seems to me it goes like this. A kid is good at fighting. A trainer picks him up and does some work. In a couple years they get to go to the Olympics and win a medal. And then they become world champions. You know this has happened a 100 times. No god damn way an 18 year old is going to become a MMA champ. Simply impossible. Two different sports. I could go on for hours about how much training it takes to be at the top in MMA, but I think your mind cannot be changed by logic.
 
Of course some bearded white guy would look down on boxing when he has white virgin fanboys to appeal to.

He does talk real about the wrestling aspect. Even though no one really cares how good a wrestler is and in all honesty the wrestling aspect is boring as fuck ESPECIALLY when it's only because they can't throw hands.

It was fun to see GSP wrestle because no one could stop it even if they were greater wrestlers.
 
carwin and stipe got to the very top of the hw division and had a 9 to 5 on the side. Brock went from wwe to the ufc and became champ in his 30s. No chance in hell you can do that in boxing. Mma is nowhere near as demanding as boxing to become elite.

Look at wilder... picks up boxing to pay his child support and goes to Olympics games in like a year lol
 
Well, competition-wise boxing is harder cause in MMA you can get away with facing a good striker/BJJ/Wrestler opponent by using a gameplan of whatever your good at. In boxing, your facing someone who has more than likely been doing this their entire life and you can't get away if your shittier at something but better at something they aren't cause you guys are only doing one martial art together. Boxing skill set wise, MMA is easier like the MMA guys that we think are good boxers in MMA, if they stepped onto the boxing scene, they would get demolished by perhaps even an amateur experienced boxer. Boxing also takes up more dedication. Some of the best have had to have a ton of amateur fights to get noticed especially in tough countries that they tend to come from like Cuba,Philippines,etc, elect to go to the olympics,and turn pro. In MMA, you can get like 3 amateur fights,turn pro, get 5 fights and then your signed by the UFC/Bellator if you got a manager w/ connections.
 
Let's not act like this guy is a average man.. this is a freak of athlete

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correct, a freak that could have made it playing ball too but had low grades. Also picking up boxing at 19 as a heavyweight is ok. Thats a spring chicken for that weightclass.
 
no offense but only dumb ppl would even think that boxing is easier.

its all about the competition. and mma has easier competition.

there is a reason ngannous coach told him to go to mma and not boxing and look how well he is doing there.
 
Ugh. This is simple. To box you throw punches. That means any sherdogger out there can go box.

In MMA you have to "learn" wrestling and subs and kicks etc.

To be a Floyd of course it takes a lifetime. Same to be a GSP. In anything you can learn your whole life and get better. We are talking the "amount" of things to learn. Taking a stiff punch and then having someone try to choke you to death requires a lot of years to master. It is a bit different than taking a stiff punch and then a 10 count.
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You have to remember that about 50% of Shertards were members of boxing forums like boxingscene or boxingforum247 before signing up to be a Shertard. These boxing hipsters still have a soft spot for pillow hand punching. It was their first love. Of course a lot of cholos and wiggers will argue for that all day.

Boxing matches look RETARDED with those big oversized mittens on and 100 different rules to follow.

MMA is more difficult to be elite in. That’s just common sense. And the more participants as the sport grows, the harder and harder it will become to be elite. I mean you have multiple individualized arts combined into one sport.

With that said, boxing is and will always be one of the most important arts because it involves hands. And it’s still one of the most effective. And will always be.

Now as to the actual sport of big ounce mittens called boxing: it looks retarded after watching MMA. And boxing was my first love. I first got into it when watching bowe-Holyfield 1. I was 8 years old and remeber HBO boxing.......anyway, boxing as a sport would be infinitely more important and interesting if they had 1, 2, and 3 ounce leather gloves. Even mma gloves are just a tad too big. You wouldn’t have the Floyd Mayweathers of the world using the crab/philly shell defensive tactic because of the oversized glove, you would have more offensive opportunities therefore making the sport more exciting. Head movement and footwork and clinching/in fighting would be more popular.

The old boxers of the 20s and 10s didn’t lack technical ability, it was the way they had to fight given the glove size. Boxing with as small hand protection as possible would make boxing more realistic too.

If they allowed all boxers to wear 1 ounce gloves And mandated it, it would probably become my favorite sport again.
 
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