whats the average time to go from white to blue in brazil training a couple times a day? eg, say for guys who go and train at Gordos hrough connection rio what would be a reasonable time for them to exppect to get a blue?
The person has the hours.
Unless Jiu Jitsu improvement is based off of the cycles of the moon the number of months training isn't as important as the number of hours.
Thanks for your thoughts -
Its actually 84 classes over the 3 months.
If a regular student trained 2 x a week for 2 years it's 192 classes (take out easter holiday, christmas, injuries etc etc) maybe around 180 classes at best over 2 years.
We believe given the structure, syllabus, trainer and in Phuket you ONLY train (no work or worries) that we can achieve this.
But as we have mentioned. Only time and results will tell.
I can sort of agree, but at the same time, there is only so much you can absorb in a single day.
I've done some seminars that were 4 and 5 hours and by the end, it's not really effective anymore.
There is something to be said for having enough off time from training for your mind to wrap around what you are learning. I do really well, for instance, implementing techniques that I watch two or three days before I have my first sparring of the week on Tuesday. I'll watch them and then think them through for days, applying the technique a number of times before I even get to class.
Where is the Mother fucking Like button for this post?But that's the problem. Seminars are about sitting around and listening to the guest talk. 4 hours of controlled drilling will blast your muscle memory through the roof and that's what matters.
Bjj classes are inefficient. Why is everyone surprised that it can be done in 3 months?
Your normal white belt comes in and works a completely random move which has nothing to do with building off of what he is already struggling with.
Jiu Jitsu demands white belts learn the basics by accident. Like a big hunting contest.
"oh, your double under pass is weak? Sorry, we are practicing xguard sweeps today. Oh you already got that merit badge? Don't worry, this can be review. Oh, you don't understand the RNC yet? Well get to it eventually. Come in 3 months from now when we cover the back series. Make sure you come on day 2. The other days we are covering D'arce chokes. "
How is someone supposed to systematically learn that way?
But if you brought in a bunch of white belts, start them at ground zero and review their progress at 30 days to start individualizjng drills, it would be hard to believe that you wouldn't be at a blue belt level by day 90.
At the end of the day, I think the majority of BJJers don't like the idea of guys earning legit status faster than they did in the past. People want n00bs to toil at the lower ranks even if they lnow the system is flawed.
Pretty pathetic.
There is no way that 95% of people would be a competitive blue belts, even if they attended all of the classes over the 3 months. Some people just don't have the capacity to learn that quickly.
If they were pre-selecting members based on athletic ability and dedication, then I see no reason why a group couldn't be put together where a bunch of newbies train competitively with strong instructors and a small teacher-to-student ratio to become blue belts.
but how would you run a class with individualized drilling?But that's the problem. Seminars are about sitting around and listening to the guest talk. 4 hours of controlled drilling will blast your muscle memory through the roof and that's what matters.
Bjj classes are inefficient. Why is everyone surprised that it can be done in 3 months?
Your normal white belt comes in and works a completely random move which has nothing to do with building off of what he is already struggling with.
Jiu Jitsu demands white belts learn the basics by accident. Like a big hunting contest.
"oh, your double under pass is weak? Sorry, we are practicing xguard sweeps today. Oh you already got that merit badge? Don't worry, this can be review. Oh, you don't understand the RNC yet? Well get to it eventually. Come in 3 months from now when we cover the back series. Make sure you come on day 2. The other days we are covering D'arce chokes. "
How is someone supposed to systematically learn that way?
But if you brought in a bunch of white belts, start them at ground zero and review their progress at 30 days to start individualizjng drills, it would be hard to believe that you wouldn't be at a blue belt level by day 90.
At the end of the day, I think the majority of BJJers don't like the idea of guys earning legit status faster than they did in the past. People want n00bs to toil at the lower ranks even if they lnow the system is flawed.
Pretty pathetic.
At the end of the day, I think the majority of BJJers don't like the idea of guys earning legit status faster than they did in the past. People want n00bs to toil at the lower ranks even if they lnow the system is flawed.
Pretty pathetic.
But that's the problem. Seminars are about sitting around and listening to the guest talk. 4 hours of controlled drilling will blast your muscle memory through the roof and that's what matters.
Bjj classes are inefficient. Why is everyone surprised that it can be done in 3 months?
Your normal white belt comes in and works a completely random move which has nothing to do with building off of what he is already struggling with.
Jiu Jitsu demands white belts learn the basics by accident. Like a big hunting contest.
"oh, your double under pass is weak? Sorry, we are practicing xguard sweeps today. Oh you already got that merit badge? Don't worry, this can be review. Oh, you don't understand the RNC yet? Well get to it eventually. Come in 3 months from now when we cover the back series. Make sure you come on day 2. The other days we are covering D'arce chokes. "
How is someone supposed to systematically learn that way?
But if you brought in a bunch of white belts, start them at ground zero and review their progress at 30 days to start individualizjng drills, it would be hard to believe that you wouldn't be at a blue belt level by day 90.
At the end of the day, I think the majority of BJJers don't like the idea of guys earning legit status faster than they did in the past. People want n00bs to toil at the lower ranks even if they lnow the system is flawed.
Pretty pathetic.
Please don't class me in with this lot.
If a person can reach an appropriate skill level at 90 days, then great.
My concern is simply with skill retention with such an intense schedule of training. For some people, I think it would work fine. I question whether it would work for everyone.
The big hesitation I have with quick promotions is all the other stuff that goes with rank.
I think people underestimate how much trouble a guy who hasn't been around long enough to learn how the community works can get into as a higher rank. I've seen it go really badly a few times where the guy genuinely didn't know that he was doing stuff that would piss off others, but because he was higher ranked nobody gave him the benefit of the doubt. They just figured he was being an asshole on purpose.
The end result is a lot of trouble and enemies made. It can eventually have a negative effect on actual rolling performance due to a lack of training partners. Other guys are hesitant to train or associate with them because of the perception of constant political issues.
As a blue belt, this isn't really a big deal anymore. But extend this logic up to brown belt or something and these can become serious issues.
How do you know? Have you ever trained someone for 3 months straight working isometricaly on his weak points?