Economy Bitcoin Doubters, Come Eat Your Crow

So it's just like stocks?

Like i know there is Bitcoin, Ether, and something else and I've been curious for a bit.
No, stocks provide a revenue stream (dividends) in addition to changing value over time.
 
100K per bitcoin isn't unrealistic.
seems low now tbh


for sure when futures trading goes live there will be insane market manipulation

Mike, buddy.

I will get a hardware wallet.

1. Do hardware wallets accept ethereum too or only bitcoin?
2. Can I add more bitcion to the hardware wallet later?

Thanks for your help bro.
I know trezor has a built in ethereum wallet. Yes you can always deposit more to the same account
 
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I tried to exchange my bitcoin for goods a while back and was unable to do so. Doesn't matter how many zeros they put behind the value of them if you can't buy anything, they're worthless.
 
“Although we strive to provide continuous access to Coinbase services in all states in the US, Coinbase must indefinitely suspend its business in Hawaii.

The Hawaii Division of Financial Institutions (DFI) has communicated regulatory policies which we believe will render continued Coinbase operations there impractical.

In particular, we understand that the Hawaii DFI will require licensure of entities which offer certain virtual currency services to Hawaii residents. Although Coinbase has no objection to this policy decision, we understand the Hawaii DFI has further determined that licensees who hold virtual currency on behalf of customers must maintain redundant fiat currency reserves in an amount equal to the aggregate face value of all digital currency funds held on behalf of customers. Although Coinbase securely maintains 100% of all customer funds on behalf of our customers, it is impractical, costly, and inefficient for us to establish a redundant reserve of fiat currency over and above customer digital currency secured on our platform.”

Hmmmm
 
“Although we strive to provide continuous access to Coinbase services in all states in the US, Coinbase must indefinitely suspend its business in Hawaii.

The Hawaii Division of Financial Institutions (DFI) has communicated regulatory policies which we believe will render continued Coinbase operations there impractical.

In particular, we understand that the Hawaii DFI will require licensure of entities which offer certain virtual currency services to Hawaii residents. Although Coinbase has no objection to this policy decision, we understand the Hawaii DFI has further determined that licensees who hold virtual currency on behalf of customers must maintain redundant fiat currency reserves in an amount equal to the aggregate face value of all digital currency funds held on behalf of customers. Although Coinbase securely maintains 100% of all customer funds on behalf of our customers, it is impractical, costly, and inefficient for us to establish a redundant reserve of fiat currency over and above customer digital currency secured on our platform.”

Hmmmm


I agree somewhat with your assessment but even banks are not held to hold that much to back their "virtual currency" in fact I think they are around 10 to 20 percent and they are complaining that is too large. If coinbase had to cover that much from one individual their whole business model will collapse. They have to be able to constantly payoff others while financing their operations both of these are extremely costly.
 
I agree somewhat with your assessment but even banks are not held to hold that much to back their "virtual currency" in fact I think they are around 10 to 20 percent and they are complaining that is too large. If coinbase had to cover that much from one individual their whole business model will collapse. They have to be able to constantly payoff others while financing their operations both of these are extremely costly.

I’m not really making any assessment, this isn’t anything I’m knowledgeable about. But I tried to sign up for Coinbase and my account was immediately shut down with that message displayed.

Honestly I was looking for assessments from some more knowledgeable people here so thanks.

And if anyone has information about a trustworthy site or app I can use in hawaii I would appreciate it. Trustworthy is important since I always have Mt. Gox in the back of my mind I wonder how many others here might as well.
 
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I was going to buy some more last week I was just waiting or a dip, now it's double that price. I still have around $2500 worth. More than doubled my money in a month if I was to sell now.
 
I was going to buy some more last week I was just waiting or a dip, now it's double that price. I still have around $2500 worth. More than doubled my money in a month if I was to sell now.

Good luck trying to sell though. I keep hearing how difficult it even impossible it is to turn bitcoins back into dollars
 
Good luck trying to sell though. I keep hearing how difficult it even impossible it is to turn bitcoins back into dollars
I have an localbitcoins account that I could sell. The pain in the ass part I'm guessing is if you're only selling in small amounts. I don't plan on selling for years anyhow.


Here's my post for November 2nd.
I kept saying that when it was like $900. But I eventually just bought a thousand dollars worth today just in case it hits a few hundred thousand in years down the line. So I only have 0.1 bitcoin but who knows, at least if anything crazy happens in the next decade I have some stake in it. If I was to lose it all it's not like $1000 loss is going to destroy my life. Gambling alone I've probably lost 10 times that over my life.
 
My $750 of bitcoin is now worth $25,000.

Hm.
 
Bitcoin value is derived on what again?

Someone is going to get caught holding the bag of nothing. Sucks for them. Kudos to anyone who makes significant money on it though.
 
Bitcoin value is derived on what again?

Someone is going to get caught holding the bag of nothing. Sucks for them. Kudos to anyone who makes significant money on it though.
Nothing, it's value is completely made up.
 
That isnt where there is money to be made. It wont be a mainstream currency, it will be "Gold 2.0" as somebody said. The money to be made is when I was telling people to sell at 8k and it is now double that. lol. Don't buy Bitcoin right now. Most people buy high, that is why it is high in the first place. If people started selling or even using bitcoin, it will go down. People are holding it. That is where the money has been. Sell it for US dollars. Nobody actually wants bitcoin. They want the money it can be converted into. None of this gain is real until you withdraw it. Until you sell it.

People keep saying this and it keeps going up. I said this at 800, then again at 4000, and against at 8000. Now it is over 18000.
 
Bitcoin value is derived on what again?

Someone is going to get caught holding the bag of nothing. Sucks for them. Kudos to anyone who makes significant money on it though.
It's tied to an anonymous, convenient and (formerly/potentially) low cost payment system. Lots of other people use it, some retailers accept it, and significant infrastructure (such as exchanges) has built up around it. It is scarce.
 
“Although we strive to provide continuous access to Coinbase services in all states in the US, Coinbase must indefinitely suspend its business in Hawaii.

The Hawaii Division of Financial Institutions (DFI) has communicated regulatory policies which we believe will render continued Coinbase operations there impractical.

In particular, we understand that the Hawaii DFI will require licensure of entities which offer certain virtual currency services to Hawaii residents. Although Coinbase has no objection to this policy decision, we understand the Hawaii DFI has further determined that licensees who hold virtual currency on behalf of customers must maintain redundant fiat currency reserves in an amount equal to the aggregate face value of all digital currency funds held on behalf of customers. Although Coinbase securely maintains 100% of all customer funds on behalf of our customers, it is impractical, costly, and inefficient for us to establish a redundant reserve of fiat currency over and above customer digital currency secured on our platform.”

Hmmmm

Seems reasonable.

Its like if some was to hold $100,000 of your gold it would be insane to expect to hold $100,000 of USD as well.

Well based on my reading of their statement.
 
I’m not really making any assessment, this isn’t anything I’m knowledgeable about. But I tried to sign up for Coinbase and my account was immediately shut down with that message displayed.

Honestly I was looking for assessments from some more knowledgeable people here so thanks.

And if anyone has information about a trustworthy site or app I can use in hawaii I would appreciate it. Trustworthy is important since I always have Mt. Gox in the back of my mind I wonder how many others here might as well.

I asked the same thing about security of my holdings in this very thread when my bonus was enough to buy 2 bitcoins.

No fucking answers

and thus

i have no fucking bitcoins

and thus

i hate you all.
 
Bitcoin value is derived on what again?

Someone is going to get caught holding the bag of nothing. Sucks for them. Kudos to anyone who makes significant money on it though.

What people will pay for it.

Is gold really worth much? It would be cheap as lead if it wasn't shiny.
 
Good luck trying to sell though. I keep hearing how difficult it even impossible it is to turn bitcoins back into dollars

exactly. lol. I can turn my apple and tesla stocks into dollars this instant if I wanted to.
 
Still dont know what the hell bitcoin is..

Still dont know where this goofy fucking expression: "eat crow" came from..
 
“Although we strive to provide continuous access to Coinbase services in all states in the US, Coinbase must indefinitely suspend its business in Hawaii.

The Hawaii Division of Financial Institutions (DFI) has communicated regulatory policies which we believe will render continued Coinbase operations there impractical.

In particular, we understand that the Hawaii DFI will require licensure of entities which offer certain virtual currency services to Hawaii residents. Although Coinbase has no objection to this policy decision, we understand the Hawaii DFI has further determined that licensees who hold virtual currency on behalf of customers must maintain redundant fiat currency reserves in an amount equal to the aggregate face value of all digital currency funds held on behalf of customers. Although Coinbase securely maintains 100% of all customer funds on behalf of our customers, it is impractical, costly, and inefficient for us to establish a redundant reserve of fiat currency over and above customer digital currency secured on our platform.”

Hmmmm

I got a similar notice for a different site in NY.
 
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