Big John McCarthy says Pennington's corner was wrong

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  1. Mmmmmmma1234

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    Pride is a hell of a thing especially in fighters, somehow it's viewed as "ok" for a corner stoppage or ref stopping it as she cowering on the ground but her tapping is seen as cowardly.
     
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    How exactly? She admitted she was done and did.nothing but take more head trauma
     
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    Only ABC knows if they were right or wrong

    Its coaches job to discuss these things in advance, maybe AB told them she wants them to push her if they see weakness/quittign in, maybe se easily quits and regrets it afterwards

    disclaimer: all theoretical, didnt watch the fight
     
  4. Fahrenheit1221

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    Spot on assessment by Big John.
     
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    He catches shit here but Schaub had great points on it this week and I completely agree with him. It was good to let the fight continue. Big johns wrong
     
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    She herself said it was okay, her corner of course agree with it, those around her agree with it. That is good enough for me.
     
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    The only argument people have is literally "people would have talked shit"


    What are we eight years old?


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  8. SirKratos

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    Smh, no one is forcing a fighter to do anything, Pennington could have made the fight end by telling the ref she doesn't want to fight anymore, but in the end she didn't
     
  9. SirKratos

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    No, if the fighter tells the ref they are done, then its over. If they tell to cornerman, it means nothing
     
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    Her brain was mashed in. That’s why you have a corner, to act as a surrogate for you.

    She wasn’t all there
     
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  11. Irishwhiskey119

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    She and her corner both said they did the right thing.

    LOL at head trauma it's fighting! Eddie Alvarez said the same thing and his corner talked him into continuing and he won.

    Fuck off with the hindsight is 20/20 trash. Go to Reddit with that soft logic.
     
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  12. campbecc

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    It's a difficult situation for everyone involved. It's not as easy a decision as people are making it out to be especially in such an important fight. If she goes out and lands a KO punch then everyone is talking about how great her corner was for getting their fighter through a tough moment.
     
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    Yep, when a fighter hints, or in this case flat out says they want out you let them out. You do not manipulate them like that, if you do you're an asshole. Fighting is not like other safe activities
     
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    Translation : I disagree with what he's saying so I'm just going to say he should stick to reffing just to look cool.
     
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    The only thing she "gained" was more damage and more than likely years shaved off her MMA career.

    And who knows how much that unnecessary damage will affect her once her fighting days are behind her.


    So Big John was correct : She gained NOTHING because she had NOTHING both Mentally and Physically at that point. She knew she was done but her Coaches are selfish bastards.

    And her defending them just smacks of "battered wife syndrome" or something like that.
     
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  16. glenwo2

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    Then what's the point of having cornermen? o_O

    Part of your purse goes to them so why should you have them around at all if they're not going to do their fucking jobs in PROTECTING YOU?
     
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    Um every fighter is different. She got her ass beat for 4 rounds and said that. Her head was not in it. What was to gain going another round getting her ass beat? Pride? She got stopped in the 5th. Yup good for her getting more damage
     
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    I like Big John but don't really care for ultimatums when decisions and exchanges end in less than a minute. Hard to call court on that imo.

    Would have been fine with it being ended at the end of the 4th. Rocky was basically done and she showed little chance of rallying. Could she still have won? Sure, unlikely but possible I guess.

    Not sure anyone is truly in the wrong here but its a difficult situation to view and no doubt be involved in.
     
  19. Irishwhiskey119

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    They did the right thing.

    Raquel and her corner all agree it's the right thing. Nothing more to say.

    These are fighters and she didn't receive any life debilitating damage. You CTE kids over react over everything now and it's hilarious.
     
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    Are you the one getting the shit beat out of them? No. So you don't know what it's like in their mindset. She mentally checked out. No need to continue
     

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