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Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by Jack Handy jr, Jul 15, 2017.
Simo Häyhä had 505 kills over 100 days, Vasily Zietsev has 202 over 90
Hathcock murks him and Simo all day long.
Sniper training had advanced since Simo and VS in WWII -and Carlos had to go out and murk trained enemy snipers during nam in their own jungle. That's some srs shit.
Really? You didn't know that was? The guy is on the Mount Rushmore's of snipers, alonside Eddie Alvarez.
Have to agree with the white feather it didn't exactly bode well for concealment purposes but yes it was friggin Schweet
Hathcock is the better sniper. Chris Kyle was known to bullshit quite a bit.
Simo and Vasily also had enemy snipers after them. Hell the Russians started to bomb areas where they thought Simo was in.
Hard to compare the 3 really, one was in finnish-russian forests during winter, one in vietnamese jungles with hot temperatures and one in a ruined & bombed city during winter. Different equipment, different opponents, different places they made their name in.
That's why I said simo>>>>
If you read the bottom of my post, I had the picture confused and clarified that I was talking about simo
Simo is the GOAT in terms of raw numbers but he was in the best possible conditions to kill as many as possible
Hathcock didn't kill as many but he was in extremely difficult conditions and had to infiltrate enemy territory rather than hide in his and shoot all intruders
PLUS he did it with iron sights... thats fucking amazing right there
Thomas Beckett is the GOAT
All are badass -but Carlos did it in the enemy's own backyard and went up against trained enemy counter snipers that would have been familiar with the techniques of VS and Simo. Another thing that makes Carlos intriguing is the confirmation of much of his 'legend' whereas with Simo and VS there's potentially a lot of misinformation.
Carlos has 93 confirmed kills confirmed by a 3rd party -but by his own estimation and his spotters (which I don't think he always had) he's possibly closer to 300/400. I've read tons about all 3 guys, but Hathcocks stories always seem more impressive to me due to the fact that most of what you read about him is the confirmed stuff.
The numbers for Simo and VS can't be confirmed tho. Using the exact confirmation for numbers that Simo and VS used puts Carlos at around 300/400 kills. But that's based off his own word and so on.
For example, it's rumored that for morale the Russians greatly exaggerated VS's numbers for propaganda.
Two totally different snipers and two totally different eras too. Gunny is the epitome of what it meant to be a sniper. Stalking, long distance shots, etc.
Kyle's MOUT sniping was a target rich environment but he was still talented as shit.
Gunny Hathcock. I've always been a fan of White Feather.
He had way less tech
Carlos "the Jackal" pwns all
Anybody that takes a mission with the information "you'll probably die" gets my vote.
that Finnish dude that had his face blown off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Charles Benjamin "Chuck" Mawhinney
I'd say they all worship at this dude's altar.