Best Base for MMA?

eon001 said:
I think MMA is evolving past this question. The best base for MMA is MMA. The obvious answer would be wrestling, but now we have strikers that are learning to not get taken down, AND there taking down top grapplers. Gus and Holly both managed to land takedowns on there grapple centric opponents. Do everything at a young age.
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Obviously the point would be to mix it up and everyone is going to learn everything. That's not the point, point is while everyone learns everything there's certain areas available to focus on- what people would prefer to focus on is basically what the question best base for MMA asks. Generally a fighter tends to focus on one particular lead strategy- grappling/striking, mixing it up to gauge and time their opponents.

That's what this is all about. MMA is not resolved, still evolving.
 
A few champions with great grappling and competent striking, (Dos Anjos, Weidman, Cormier) a few contenders and champions with great striking and competent takedown defense (Lawler, Dillashaw, Gus)

And then you got those guys that are well rounded with all of them (Aldo, Jones, Rory etc)

Then you have guys like Silva and McGregor.

I would definitely agree that some sort of grappling is essential.
 
Back in the day it was JJ. Now a days under the unified rules I'd have to say wrestling
 
as much as i hate to admit it, but yeah wrestling, being able to control where the fight goes will always make you life easier. That or something like marathon running, because conditioning is most important
 
Jones didn't stand with Gus cuz he wanted to, he did cuz he was forced too. Gus even took Jones down in that fight which is why I think he had so much success on the feet, the fear of the takedown
 
Wrestling is the default. If you can't stop it, you will eat losses without putting up a fight. If you have it, it can give you free wins against those who can't stop it, ignoring just about everything else.

With the exception of being exceptional striker + bjj, its the absolute one "must have", at least to a competent degree, for any fighter.
 
PD4838 said:
Jiu jitsu....early UFC's proved this
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They proved BJJ is the best individual martial art

In modern MMA where people are more well rounded, wrestling is the superior base
 
Boxing because no MMA fighter can pick it up.

Wrestling and BJJ for obvious reasons.
 
Cooliox said:
cant disagree with that.

That's also why I'm a big fan of Mayweather's. The dude's a defensive specialist, no one has been able to take as little damage as he's done. That too over a career spanning 49-0 fighting against bigger guys across multiple divisions.

I dont think I've seen another striker be able to negate punishment the way Floyd did. I know the casual fan wants to see wild exchanges to feed their need for TV-adrenaline, but man, Floyd was an artist in there.

Knocked down what, only once or twice in his career? Madness.

Fedor did it in MMA too. While the level of competition wasn't the same, it was unheard of since he fought at HW. He was never knocked down in his prime.
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Sure as I mentioned before I'm still waiting for Mayweather's avatar in MMA someone as defensively calibrated and game as him. I believe we see a similar level of great defense in Aldo only difference between Mayweather and Aldo being Aldo has to worry about so much more and is still so technically tight.

Fedor did do it for 10 years on the top of his game then he came across a prime Bigfoot and Dan Henderson. That happened, it's reality it did not magically not happen just because it was near the end nor does it mean it diminishes his career prior.

But there is one that walks among us now who carries that same and even more and it's Jon Jones. 20+ fights of dominance we've never seen; never been dropped or seriously hurt. The closest was Gus which was a war but Jones was never in any fight ending danger. More people need to recognize we have the greatest fighter right now and Mayweather recognizes which why I hope they sign Jones to TMT. Jones with Mayweather boxing coaching or general mentorship would be insane.
 
wrasslin, but sambo is up there too

it is only that UFC has been so dominant in MMA and being an US based promotion in the country where the wrestling is one of the most dominant highschool / collegiate sports
 
prikoke said:
Boxing IMO. Look at fighters like Lawler, JDS, Gus. They were able to learn enough TDD to keep top level wrestlers like Hendricks, Cain and Jones from taking them down and keeping them down.
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But a dangerous Muay Thai fighter would most likely beat a boxer. Wrestling is the best base because u chose whether to make it a stand up or ground fight.
 
TheNinja said:
In the UFC rule set (or basically all the modern MMA rules nowadays) it's wrestling. A wrestler can usually control where the fight takes place and can always lay n pray for 3 rounds.
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A wrestler with jiu jitsu will finish you quick
 
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