Berlin: Group of seven younglings sets sleeping homeless guy on fire


The couple intended to set the fireworks off as a prank to a sleeping homeless person, didn't realize it set him on fire. Cruel yes, but less cruel than purposeful setting on fire.


Zero description of attacker.


Is this another vague "latino-looking" incident? Like the attack that turned out to be an Arab American earlier this year? Still vague man.


Looks like another attack by someone with Middle Eastern descent - the BBC typically concealing his identity. You literally can't make this thread up.


Finally a white person suspected of three attacks. Name and closeup pic left out.


3 males. Great narrowing down.



This your FIRST suspect with a European name and appearance out of 320 million people in the US. Here is the accused's defence mentioned in the article:

“I was super stoned and intoxicated plus using my prescribed medications,” Padgett said of the incident in a letter to the judge in the case. “My (intention) was for Syd Moreno, was that he see the fire burning next to him and wake up and be angry at me… . I did not hurt him purposely or willingly.”

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Do I need to post a list of Islam derived non-Muslim burnings that already haven't been posted in this thread?

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2011/04/muslims-burn-homosexuals-alive.html

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/250834/islam-and-burning-people-alive-dr-stephen-m-kirby

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7542/churches-under-islam

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/nigeria-muslims-slaughter-40-people-burn-church

http://www.soundvision.com/article/shahpara-sayeed-a-muslim-wife-burned-to-death-in-illinois


http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...an-muslims-burn-christian-churches-to-ground/

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/...gpicker-to-death-after-accusing-him-of-theft/

http://pamelageller.com/2015/08/graphic-new-video-islamic-state-burns-4-captives-alive-isis.html/



http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/wrong-islamic-texts-dont-ban-burning-people/
 
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The couple intended to set the fireworks off as a prank to a sleeping homeless person, didn't realize it set him on fire. Cruel yes, but less cruel than purposeful setting on fire.



Zero description of attacker.



Is this another vague "latino-looking" incident? Like the attack that turned out to be an Arab American earlier this year? Still vague man.



Looks like another attack by someone with Middle Eastern descent - the BBC typically concealing his identity. You literally can't make this thread up.



Finally a white person suspected of three attacks. Name and closeup pic left out.



3 males. Great narrowing down.




This your FIRST suspect with a European name and appearance out of 320 million people in the US. Here is the accused's defence mentioned in the article:

“I was super stoned and intoxicated plus using my prescribed medications,” Padgett said of the incident in a letter to the judge in the case. “My (intention) was for Syd Moreno, was that he see the fire burning next to him and wake up and be angry at me… . I did not hurt him purposely or willingly.”

_______________


Do I need to post a list if Islam derived non-Muslim burnings that already haven't been posted in this thread?

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2011/04/muslims-burn-homosexuals-alive.html

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/250834/islam-and-burning-people-alive-dr-stephen-m-kirby

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7542/churches-under-islam

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/nigeria-muslims-slaughter-40-people-burn-church

http://www.soundvision.com/article/shahpara-sayeed-a-muslim-wife-burned-to-death-in-illinois


http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...an-muslims-burn-christian-churches-to-ground/

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/...gpicker-to-death-after-accusing-him-of-theft/

http://pamelageller.com/2015/08/graphic-new-video-islamic-state-burns-4-captives-alive-isis.html/



http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/wrong-islamic-texts-dont-ban-burning-people/


dude you are reaching. there are tons of attacks in the western world on tramps. scores of them are by burning. i happen to know this, and saying the bbc are concealing identities is bs too. half the time they cant say who did it until prosecution. bottomline is we both know if we go through all the attacks, the massive majority will be from white people.

as for burnings and barbaric punishments from the islamic world of 1.5bn people and countless countries, im sure you will find some shit. but you dont need to look past latin america, for shit that would make a taliban blush.

its a sick fucking world out there, but burning tramps is nothing to do with islam, or even a perversion of islam.

im out at this point, because i literally dont think theres enough people dumb enough to agree with you, to warrant mythbusting this thread.

if more than 5 people pm me to tell me they honestly think islam encourages people to burn the homeless, then i will come back.

peace.
 
dude you are reaching. there are tons of attacks in the western world on tramps. scores of them are by burning. i happen to know this, and saying the bbc are concealing identities is bs too. half the time they cant say who did it until prosecution. bottomline is we both know if we go through all the attacks, the massive majority will be from white people.

as for burnings and barbaric punishments from the islamic world of 1.5bn people and countless countries, im sure you will find some shit. but you dont need to look past latin america, for shit that would make a taliban blush.

its a sick fucking world out there, but burning tramps is nothing to do with islam, or even a perversion of islam.

im out at this point, because i literally dont think theres enough people dumb enough to agree with you, to warrant mythbusting this thread.

if more than 5 people pm me to tell me they honestly think islam encourages people to burn the homeless, then i will come back.

peace.

Muhammad burnt people, Jesus didn't. Both ideologies believe their examples to be perfect.

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n____ please. i wouldnt usually do this but...

Food and the needy
Safwan ibn Salim related that the Prophet said: Anyone who looks after and works for a widow and a poor person is like a warrior fighting for Allah?s cause, or like a person who fasts during the day and prays all night. (Bukhari)

Anas related that the Prophet said: If any Muslim plants something or sows seed from which a man, a bird or an animal eats, it counts as a charity for him. (Bukhari, Muslim)



1. The Quran

Attitude of the giver of charity
Those who spend their wealth in the way of Allah and do not follow up their spending by stressing their benevolence and causing hurt, will find their reward secure with their Lord. They have no cause for fear and grief.4

To speak a kind word and to forgive people's faults is better than charity followed by hurt. Allah is All-Sufficient, All-Forbearing4

Believers! Do not nullify your acts of charity by stressing your benevolence and causing hurt as does he who spends his wealth only to be seen by men and does not believe in Allah and the Last Day.2 The example of his spending is that of a rock with a thin coating of earth upon it: when a heavy rain smites it, the earth is washed away, leaving the rock bare; such people derive no gain from their acts of charity. Allah does not set the deniers of the Truth on the right way. (2:262 - 264)

The needy who do not do beg
Those needy ones who are wholly wrapped up in the cause of Allah, and who are hindered from moving about the earth in search of their livelihood especially deserve help. He who is unaware of their circumstances supposes them to be wealthy because of their dignified bearing, but you will know them by their countenance, although they do not go about begging of people with importunity. And whatever wealth you will spend on helping them, Allah will know of it. (2:273)

Economic exploitation
And do not become like the woman who, after having painstakingly spun her yarn, caused it to disintegrate into pieces. You resort to oaths as instruments of mutual deceit so that one people might take greater advantage than another although Allah puts you to the test through this. Surely on the Day of Resurrection He will make clear the truth concerning the matters over which you differed. (16:92)

Food and the needy
Have you seen him who belies the rewards and punishments of the Hereafter? He it is who drives away the orphan and does not urge giving away the food of the poor. (107:1 - 3)

Give to the near of kin his due, and also to the needy and the wayfarers. Do not squander your wealth wastefully; for those who squander wastefully are Satan's brothers, and Satan is ever ungrateful to his Lord. (17:26 - 27)5

Greed
Look, you are being called upon to expend in Allah's Way, yet some of you are being :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:rdly, whereas the one who is :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:rdly is, in fact, being :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:rdly only to himself. Allah is Self-Sufficient: it is you who are the needy. If you turn away, Allah will replace you by another people, and they will not be like you. (47:38)

Moderation in giving
Do not keep your hand fastened to your neck nor outspread it, altogether widespread, for you will be left sitting rebuked, destitute. (17:29)

(In reference to the slaves of Allah) "who, when they spend, are neither extravagant nor miserly but keep the golden mean between the two (extremes) (25:67)

Righteousness
You shall not attain righteousness until you spend out of what you love (in the way of Allah). Allah knows whatever you spend. (3:92)

Sadaqa
(O Prophet!) Tell those of My servants who believe that they should establish Prayer and spend out of what We have provided them with, both secretly and openly, before there arrives the Day when there will be no bargaining, nor any mutual befriending. (14:31)

Stinginess
Allah does not love the arrogant and the boastful, who are :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:rdly and bid others to be :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:rdly and conceal the bounty which Allah has bestowed upon them. We have kept in readiness a humiliating chastisement for such deniers (of Allah's bounty) (part of 4:36 and all of 4:37)

Zakat-what you owe from your money
The people who where given the1 Book before this did not divide into sects until after the clear statement (of the Right Way) had come to them, and the only Command they were given was to worship Allah, making their religion sincerely His, turning all their attention towards Him, and to establish the Salat and to pay the Zakat: for this alone is the most true and right religion. (98:4 - 5)

Establish Prayer and dispense the Purifying Alms (Zakat) and bow in worship with those who bow (2:43)

The believers, both men and women, are allies of one another. They enjoin good, forbid evil, establish Prayer, pay Zakah, and obey Allah and His Messenger. Surely Allah will show mercy to them. Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise (9:71)

The alms (Zakat in this specific verse?s case) are meant only for the poor and the needy and those who are in charge thereof, those whose hearts are to be reconciled; and to free those in bondage, and to help those burdened with debt, and for expenditure in the way of Allah and for the wayfarer. This is an obligation from Allah. Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. (9:60)

2. The Hadiths
Begging
Narrated Hakim bin Hizam that the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said: The upper hand is better than the lower hand (i.e. he who gives in charity is better than him who takes it). One should start giving first to his dependents. And the best object of charity is that which is given by a wealthy person (from the money which is left after his expenses). And whoever abstains from asking others for some financial help, Allah will give him and save him from asking others, Allah will make him self-sufficient. (Bukhari)

Clothing
Ibn Abbas related that the Prophet said: Any Muslim who gives a Muslim a garment to wear will be in Allah's safekeeping as long as a shred of it remains on him. (Ahmad, Tirmidhi)

Debt: Relieving the person in debt
Abu Qatadah related that the Prophet said: If anyone would like Allah to save him from the hardships of the Day of Resurrection, he should give more time to his debtor who is short of money, or remit his debt altogether. (Muslim)

Relatives who are needy
Abu Huraira narrated that the Prophet said: The best charity is that which is practiced by a wealthy person. And start giving first to your dependents. (Bukhari)

Salman ibn Amer reported that the Prophet said: To give something to a poor man brings one reward, while giving the same to a needy relation brings two: one for charity and the other for respecting the family ties. (Ahmad, Ibn Majah, Nasai, Tirmidhi)

Stinginess
Jabir reported that the Prophet said: Avoid doing injustice to others, for on the Day of Judgment, it will turn into manifold darkness, and safeguard yourself against miserliness, for it ruined those who were before you. It incited them to murder and treating the unlawful as lawful. (Muslim)

Zakat-what you owe from your money
Abbas related that a man asked the Prophet, Tell me what should I do to be admitted to Paradise and he (the Prophet) answered: Worship Allah associating nothing with Him, observe Salat, pay Zakat and strengthen the ties of kinship. (Bukhari, Muslim)

Abu Huraira related that the Prophet said: When someone is made rich but he does not pay Zakat for his wealth, then on the Day of Judgment his money will be turned into a poisonous snake with two black spots on its head. It will coil around his neck and bite his cheeks and say: 'I am your wealth, I am your treasure'. Then the Prophet recited verse 3:180 of the Quran. (Bukhari)


I often find it so useful when trying to preach tolerance to lead the post with a racist slur
 
if more than 5 people pm me to tell me they honestly think islam encourages people to burn the homeless, then i will come back.

What if those homeless people say "I don't believe in Allah and Mohammed is not his prophet." Then 500 million of 1.5 billion Muslims would agree that those homeless people should be executed.

That's a minority. But it's definitely not small enough to call it extremist. It's large enough to be considered mainstream. Mainstream Muslims do agree with executing most homeless people and also yourself.

Why are you sticking up for people that want to execute you?
 
what are you? the local iman?

dude, real talk, you are way off base with this one.

muslims arent known for setting homeless people on fire. and for that matter, ive known a lot of charitable muslims. not that youd believe me, but a lack of religion is what caused this if anything. not islam or a perversion of islam.

this wasnt a moral act or an act of perverted morals. this was an act of no morals at all.

you can call them what you want, but this was nihilstic disregard for other human beings. if you want to blame that on an us and them mentality borne of their religion, fair enough, but its beyond obvious there is nothing in their religion that encouges or permits this.

furthermore, the tramp could have been muslim for all they knew.
No, they're mainly known for:
1. Suicide bombings.
2. Shooting up nightclubs (and/or anywhere else).
3. Mass rape and enslavement.
4. Beheadings.
5. Child brides and pedophilia.
6. I could go on and on.
 
Suspects have surrendered to police
 
and all "refugees", six syrian, and one lybian apparently.

Source?

edit: nm, saw it myself now. Nothing about their refugee status but I am pretty surprised tbh. I expected them to be Turkish or Lebanese - the kind of nationality you'd expect to be second generation.
 
I often find it so useful when trying to preach tolerance to lead the post with a racist slur

i dont think that counts, but ill delete if i offended you with my blackness.

and im not preaching tolerance. im demonstrating an allergy to bullshit.
 
Get a Tissot. damn high quality for decent price.
 
All refugees with varying status. Some have been accepted, some with ongoing asylum applications.

Seriously fuck them. Scum of the earth just like the Cologne animals.

Thats the quality of person that came through in the people rush.
A large amount of scum and very few people who actually claimed work.
 
i dont think that counts, but ill delete if i offended you with my blackness.

and im not preaching tolerance. im demonstrating an allergy to bullshit.

It doesn't count?

And now you are black?
 
Germans are too nice and tolerant. Scum like this think they can take the piss in countries like Germany , Sweden , Holland etc..
Hopefully when the EU collapses , things will turn nasty for "people" like this.
As someone who has defended Sweden for long time as I have lived there most of my life. I know 2 guys who has been murdered very recently. One by just standing in the streets in a drive by. My sister moved from UK to ~Sweden as she was offered a nice job. She wants to move back now as she feels unsafe. She says she keep hearing gun shots all the time and its really bad vibe about the place. Maybe you right wingers were right about Sweden all along hmm
 
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