Ben Askren.... what a wasted career | Page 3

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    Dumbass should've stayed in Bellator.
     
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    They didn't have the money to pay him. Spike was giving Bjorn literally peanuts to run Bellator cause they wanted Bjorn gone.

    His only other choice really besides One Fc would've been to take WSOF deal and after a fight or two the UFC would've scooped him up. He just didn't want to be a pawn in the Spike excs vs Dana/UFC pissing match at the time. Hard to blame Askren for taking the One FC contract with all things considered. Though I wish he would've got some type of 2 year out clause or something in it so he could have choice of leaving.
     
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    if he had aspirations of being the best martial artist in the world, without a doubt his career has been a waste.

    if he's happy with how it's gone down and happy with the money he's made, then good for him





    as a fan, very disappointing that he never got to fight some of the top competition, other than koreshkov and lima essentially.
     
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    Wow.

    Lemme get this straight... Ben gets a MUCH better deal from ONE after the UFC said "We don't want you." and everyone is mad at him for not begging to be treated (and paid) like a prison inmate?

    Apparently...



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    The UFC says they have no interest in him. And he doesn't like Dana so what was he supposed to do?
     
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    More interesting interviews than fights. Still, he beats pretty much everyone.
     
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    I think he ended up not getting signed due to the Dana v Bjorn drama (or something).

    Also he was the big driver of interest in 1C around here, what happens when he is gone?
     
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    ...did they think he's an elephant, or something?
     
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    Probably loses almost all U.S. interest. Its weird they went after him with as much money as they did though considering they've shown no signs of trying to break into the U.S market
     
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    Vera can sell to US...Philippino roots, but he's still one of the Alliance MMA owners.

    Vera should work on bringing more Alliance fighters to ONE...how about out-buying Chandler from Bellator? (yes, I know Bellator values him a lot).
    Or Cat from UFC?
     
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    Nah he was fine it was bjorn who fucked shit. Tried publicly saying bellator is on par with ufc and askren will stomp gsp and he'd let Akren out of his contract to go to the ufc, literally trying to goad dana into "proving him wrong". Good luck attacking dana's ego then doing business with him when you dont have much to offer. Last thing dana would want is askren to come from bellator to fight the "goat" gsp and make it competotive or by some chance win. Askren was stuck in the middle of 2 egos
     
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    GSP???

    And Woodley smokes Askren
     
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    GSP in his prime was king. Present day? I doubt it. He wouldnt be returning for Bisping if he still had it.

    Woodley probably beats Askren.
    But Rory beats Woodley
    Woodley beats Wonderboy
    Wonderboy beats rory


    And imo Askren beats Rory.

    But yea there isn't a clear cut king of 170lbs and until there is Askren holds just as much of the throne. Sure UFC competition is harder but if you aren't able to clear it out then it means nothing to me.
     
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    He's retiring with next to no damage done
    Yah I love how people pretend that Bjorn and Dana aren't scumbags whenever Askren not fighting for them comes up.
     
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    Woodley would get outwrestled.....Askren is literally the wrestling coach at the gym they both train at.(hence Askren saying he wouldn't ever fight woodley they are very close friends.)

    Askren is no doubt a top WW in the world we all pride ourselves in analyzing talent and its clear he is a very tough outing for anyone at 170.

    He never signed to Ufc and didn't return to Bellator cuz Bjorn and dana were calling his style boring and no one wanted to pay him except ONE.

    Dana could have gotten him but wouldn't even negotiate so he fucked up.

    He evolved into a nasty GNP fighter destroying ppl id watch Askren fights over Woodley fights anyday.

    In the end hes going to retire undefeated with a huge bankroll in the prime of his life in good health with lucrative jobs lined up.....

    Fuck him right??lol

    He may have fought some second tier talent but he could do what he did to all the mid tier WWs in any organization...most likely most of the top ten as well.

    Danas as much to blame if not mostly to blame for him never being in the UFC.
     
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    TS hating, Askren is undefeated and TS is mad he didn't decide to be a "top ten in the UFC"
    Please.
     
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    a lot of fighters are more concerned about money that UFC and their titles. Almost all mma fans think UFC titles are all that matters. the interests of both parties don't often align
     
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