Ben Askren thinks that Khabib will beat up Tony. Werdum says Khabibs will beat Ferguson.

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Bumblebeef, Jan 22, 2018.

  1. Bumblebeef Brown Belt

    Bumblebeef
    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    2,646
    Likes Received:
    5,735
    "Tony will think he can submit Khabib but it will not be enough to get it and he will get damaged over and over while Tony is close to a submission"



    "Khabib beat Ferguson because i think Kabib game is very hard game. He showed last fight and i think he is a amazing fighter. I think he beat Ferguson, but Ferguson is very dangerous to man"



    Werdum`s prediction on Stipe vs Ngannou was very good

     
    #1
  2. Ares Black Black Belts in White Knight and Dr. Seuss styles

    Ares Black
    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2007
    Messages:
    8,144
    Likes Received:
    7,306
    Location:
    Ottawa,Ontario
    They are both right. Nurmagomedov is much better than Ferguson.
     
    #2
  3. Kung Fu Tze MMA Moderator

    Kung Fu Tze
    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2004
    Messages:
    27,460
    Likes Received:
    24,582
    Location:
    Victoria Tx
    I don't give Ferguson much of a chance. Once the fight hits the ground... and pound. Khabib is just on another level in the grappling game. But I am Pumped for this fight to actually happen.
     
    #3
  4. Peteyandjia Iridescent Algae

    Peteyandjia
    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    71,851
    Likes Received:
    78,202
    Location:
    Mountain Bar
    The favorite is obviously Khabib, but Tony does have some interesting style strengths that potentially make for a good challenge to him. Great front chokes, & a sick bottom game, those two things specifically can be a foil to a great wrestler. And of course, standup can always be a factor if he lands something big. It makes for an interesting matchup. Now here's hoping it actually makes it to the cage this time.
     
    #4
  5. Kvolcom Yellow Card

    Kvolcom
    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Messages:
    1,213
    Likes Received:
    3,383
    The Kevin Lee and Michael Johnson are the two key fights to look to. Both those fights he wasn't the better wrestler.

    Kevin Lee was winning early on, staph prolly slowed him down, but Khabib isn't slowing down and has much better BJJ skills.
     
    #5
  6. Bumblebeef Brown Belt

    Bumblebeef
    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    2,646
    Likes Received:
    5,735
    everything can happen in a fight but i think it`s very underrated on khabib his ability to react to scrambles.
    he barely needed to do that because in mma grappling is like boxing... very limited.
    in MMA some scrambles are often enough to react and get out of something but in high level grappling u see how they fight in scrambles over and over again...counter.. position... counter.. position... over and over again.
    just watch some pure grappling matches with khabib and u will find out how deep he can go in terms of grappling.
     
    #6
    John makfresshi likes this.
  7. GreatSaintGuillotine You may not like what I say but it's the truth.

    GreatSaintGuillotine
    Joined:
    May 14, 2017
    Messages:
    4,146
    Likes Received:
    5,808
    Location:
    New Orleans
    High praise from 2 of the best grapplers in the game.
     
    #7
  8. wake_me Brown Belt

    wake_me
    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2005
    Messages:
    4,176
    Likes Received:
    5,469
    Location:
    Hamilton, Ontario
    I for one am shocked that Werdum would be against Tony
     
    #8
  9. Kung Fu bb Black Belt

    Kung Fu bb
    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2016
    Messages:
    6,852
    Likes Received:
    15,511
    Location:
    Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
    And before he caught Lee with that triangle, he had him in trouble earlier with a nice armbar too.
     
    #9
  10. Peteyandjia Iridescent Algae

    Peteyandjia
    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    71,851
    Likes Received:
    78,202
    Location:
    Mountain Bar
    Yeah, guys who can actually attack in a dangerous way off their back are still rare in MMA, but Ferguson is one of those guys. His constant training with Eddie Bravo shows in his fights. He really goes after it when someone is in his guard. Khabib is pretty damn special on top too though.
     
    #10
  11. Gabe Saturdays are for the Boys

    Gabe
    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2015
    Messages:
    9,078
    Likes Received:
    20,659
    Location:
    Charlotte, USA
    They're both biased
     
    #11
    PHJ2658 and Arm Barbarian like this.
  12. maxi diablo Brown Belt

    maxi diablo
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Messages:
    3,991
    Likes Received:
    4,239
    We'll see. We'll just see...
     
    #12
  13. beephin Brown Belt

    beephin
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2013
    Messages:
    3,742
    Likes Received:
    8,631
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Ferg ankle picks both of them.
     
    #13
    PHJ2658 likes this.
  14. fluffball Brown Belt

    fluffball
    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2011
    Messages:
    3,434
    Likes Received:
    2,363
    Khabib has definitely shown weakness on his feet, and Tony is pinpoint accurate with his boxing. The safe bet is on Khabib, but don't write Tony off by any means.
     
    #14
  15. deman Orange Belt

    deman
    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2012
    Messages:
    285
    Likes Received:
    368
    Khabib is a very good fighter but he's like the Loch Ness monster at this point. Pretty soon, someone's gunna kick him in the head like they do every other wrestler & he'll be put back into perspective
     
    #15
  16. Danimal42082 Yellow Card

    Danimal42082
    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2013
    Messages:
    175
    Likes Received:
    132
    Khabib neck is there for the taking. Tony by darce or some other neck choke.
     
    #16
    A.S. Deep and Arm Barbarian like this.
  17. Peteyandjia Iridescent Algae

    Peteyandjia
    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    71,851
    Likes Received:
    78,202
    Location:
    Mountain Bar
    As opposed to them sneaky foot chokes
     
    #17
  18. Taric Gold Belt

    Taric
    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2013
    Messages:
    15,694
    Likes Received:
    9,323
    Khabib is far and away the better grappler, in every possible way. Two great grapplers see that and people should take their opinions with that in mind.
    Tony's best chance to win is on the feet and keeping distance.
     
    #18
    Sakuraba7 and Leonard Haid like this.
  19. DoopidyDawesome Black Belt

    DoopidyDawesome
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2010
    Messages:
    6,006
    Likes Received:
    4,478
    Location:
    Fighting Hitters
    Good points, I think Askren and Werdum are both very cerebral analysts both when fighting (Werdum's Stipe fight aside) and when speaking about fights.
     
    #19
  20. DoopidyDawesome Black Belt

    DoopidyDawesome
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2010
    Messages:
    6,006
    Likes Received:
    4,478
    Location:
    Fighting Hitters
    What about chicken chokes? I'm betting both fighters enjoy them.
     
    #20
    Peteyandjia and Ares Black like this.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "fd5733925866a04e50edd70f38dfaa35"
monitoring_string = "603ac9fff68f23709f2a42bf5e29272b"