Barboza - "It doesn't matter if Conor returns, I see Tony Ferguson as the ACTUAL champ."

IamStryker said:
Tony is the real champ because he is the best LW fighter. It's not hard to grasp.
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So now you just want to create your own "definition" of what a real champ is

Why stop there with this logic? If it's all about simply who you "feel" is the "best" fighter....

Well then I personally feel Nate Diaz is a way better boxer then Tony with way better BJJ....so according to your definition, Nate is the real champ over Tony.....and Conor already beat Nate....so boom there you go...

Just giving you haters a taste of your own medicine

How is it so hard for you nuts to understand that your personal feelings are irrelevant here?

The fact IS, the "real" champion IS someone who beat the champion to become the champion.

Conor is the real champion regardless of your "feelings"

Conor haters literally are liberals spouting alternative facts
 
PROlogic said:
Conor aint no Jon Jones size bully

You actually described Jon Jones

Jones has never beaten any one his size

Heck Jones was exposed badly, the first time he ever fought someone who was simply "close enough" in size to him, in Gustafsson.

Conor was already fighting bigger guys at FW. Holloway and Poirier.

Conor still out classed them because Conor actually relies on skill and IQ to win, UNLIKE Jones who's nothing but size & wrestling

Conor is all about finese, skill, defense and counter punching etc

Jones is such an inferior fighter who is ugly to watch. Jones is nothing but brute size, strength, wrestling and overwhelming.

Watching Conor out-skill much greater levels of competition, is much more pleasing to the eyes, then watching Jones the manufactured hype job simply out size and overwhelm small old men

Nate was simply WAY WAY WAY bigger then Conor

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Conor was literally 2 weight classes smaller.

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The fact Conor still out classed Nate via just straight up superior skill is a testament to just how next level skilled Conor is

Conor also out classed Alvarez who had 15lbs+ on Conor.

So Conor is the real #1 p4p. No one in MMA is on Conor's level IN PURE SKILL

Tony is tailor made to get counter fucked by Conor with his sloppy striking and many gaping defensive flaws
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Yeah, whatever bud...
 
PROlogic said:
So now you just want to create your own "definition" of what a real champ is

Why stop there with this logic? If it's all about simply who you "feel" is the "best" fighter....

Well then I personally feel Nate Diaz is a way better boxer then Tony with way better BJJ....so according to your definition, Nate is the real champ over Tony.....and Conor already beat Nate....so boom there you go...

Just giving you haters a taste of your own medicine

How is it so hard for you nuts to understand that your personal feelings are irrelevant here?

The fact IS, the "real" champion IS someone who beat the champion to become the champion.

Conor is the real champion regardless of your "feelings"

Conor haters literally are liberals spouting alternative facts
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At what point do you consider a belt illegitimate? How long? 2 years, 10 years? Whenever the company says 'no'?

At what point would you stop considering Conor the champ if he NEVER fought again, but was NEVER stripped of the title.


Serious question, objectively speaking.....pretend it wasn't even Conor....

At what point does a title lose legitimacy if not defended? How long?
 
markg171 said:
Besides 12 fighters out of the top 15.
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Except the ones you purposely aren't counting? Fights still count when the fighter leaves the weight-class dummy.

The top ten is full of fighters that Tony has already beaten, inactive, scheduled to fight before, or new to the division. Your argument is nonsense.
 
PROlogic said:
So now you just want to create your own "definition" of what a real champ is
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Not just me. Fight fans who care about legitimacy. Eventually Bisping lost legitimacy as well as Conor.

PROlogic said:
Why stop there with this logic? If it's all about simply who you "feel" is the "best" fighter....
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These arguments aren't based on feelings but what is factually happening.

PROlogic said:
Well then I personally feel Nate Diaz is a way better boxer then Tony with way better BJJ....so according to your definition, Nate is the real champ over Tony.....and Conor already beat Nate....so boom there you go...
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No idea what you are talking about. That load of nonsense has nothing to do with anything I have said.

PROlogic said:
Conor haters literally are liberals spouting alternative facts
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So you think Mark's argument about "current" top ten fighters actually makes sense? lol
Talk about alternative facts.
 
mcgregor needs to put his title on the line to show if he is a real fighter and champion. a real fighter doesnt duck contenders because of "moneyfights" against retired fighters in the boxing world.
 
giusti825 said:
At what point do you consider a belt illegitimate? How long? 2 years, 10 years? Whenever the company says 'no'?

At what point would you stop considering Conor the champ if he NEVER fought again, but was NEVER stripped of the title.


Serious question, objectively speaking.....pretend it wasn't even Conor....

At what point does a title lose legitimacy if not defended? How long?
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lol, McG fanboys would still be excusing him after a decade of non-defending.

He's NEVER defended ANY of his belts, and they are STILL calling him GOAT.

haha
 
Arm Barbarian said:
lol, McG fanboys would still be excusing him after a decade of non-defending.

He's NEVER defended ANY of his belts, and they are STILL calling him GOAT.

haha
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He is Goat..................of finding excuse.
 
Arm Barbarian said:
lol, McG fanboys would still be excusing him after a decade of non-defending.

He's NEVER defended ANY of his belts, and they are STILL calling him GOAT.

haha
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Stop lying to yourself.

No fan can give a shit about belts the way some folk go on about them on here. Either way, the majority of Champs are discredited by folk in some way shape or form.

Miocic: fights in a division with no depth in it.
Cormier: never beat Jones.
Whittaker: nothing really mentioned about him, but something will come up. Getting beat at WW to Thompson or something like that.
Woodley: boring. Plays it too safe.
Conor: where to start
Holloway: beaten by a one legged Conor (though he was only 12 at the time)
Dillashaw: looking to go down and have his next fight against someone smaller than him.
Johnson: has fought mainly cans.
 
NotoriousMillions said:
Eddie KOed Dos Anjos. He beat two other guys in the top three to get his title shot. When Conor faced him he was the best fighter in the division. Those are facts. Get over it and deal with them.

So Conor isn't avoiding the guy he KNOWS can beat him in Diaz but is ducking some overrated bloke that sticks his chin out like a fucking giraffe? Lmao, Tony is not the man. Hell Conor's been in the division for a week and beat more top guys than him, and no I don't really care about the other 7 mediocre wrestlers Tony was able snap darces on as they shot on him. He's had tailor made fights and any fight he's had with any striker that had the littlest talent has ended in controversy.

Tony is by far the most overrated fighter in MMA, and if you think Conor is scared of that when he's the best striker in MMA and the guy can't even shoot, you're more delusional that I thought!
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Overrated? Conor has one fight at LW how many does Tony have? Tony is the man at LW and most people believe that. Best striker? You mean best boxer? There are better overall strikers in MMA. Conor has great hands but that does not make him the greatest striker. He doesn’t want anything to do with Tony and his belt only means he can beat Eddie.
 
PROlogic said:
So now you just want to create your own "definition" of what a real champ is

Why stop there with this logic? If it's all about simply who you "feel" is the "best" fighter....

Well then I personally feel Nate Diaz is a way better boxer then Tony with way better BJJ....so according to your definition, Nate is the real champ over Tony.....and Conor already beat Nate....so boom there you go...

Just giving you haters a taste of your own medicine

How is it so hard for you nuts to understand that your personal feelings are irrelevant here?

The fact IS, the "real" champion IS someone who beat the champion to become the champion.

Conor is the real champion regardless of your "feelings"

Conor haters literally are liberals spouting alternative facts
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It's true. However, do you think Conor will ever come back to defend his title? It will soon become a reality when he did vacate it, then Tony will be the real champ.

Based on Conor's style, it wouldn't be hard for the rest of the fans to predict his next move as surely he will try to pursue the so call big money fight to avoid defending his title, as it's a very risky move for him to lost everything including his fame. They are just trying to speculate based on the current trend, so don't be that serious when judging them, be cool.
 
Babaganoosh said:
Overrated? Conor has one fight at LW how many does Tony have? Tony is the man at LW and most people believe that. Best striker? You mean best boxer? There are better overall strikers in MMA. Conor has great hands but that does not make him the greatest striker. He doesn’t want anything to do with Tony and his belt only means he can beat Eddie.
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Conor has beaten more top fighters at LW then Tony you dork, lmao. These are just facts. And you don't know what good striking looks like, shut up.
 
NotoriousMillions said:
Conor has beaten more top fighters at LW then Tony you dork, lmao. These are just facts. And you don't know what good striking looks like, shut up.
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I notice when you have nothing of substance to contribute, you resort to insults.

Conor is not the best striker in MMA.
 
Babaganoosh said:
I notice when you have nothing of substance to contribute, you resort to insults.

Conor is not the best striker in MMA.
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Conor is the best striker in MMA and it's not even close, lmao. Nobody cares about your crying, it's fact. Nobody has accomplished what Conor has striking. Get over it, deal with it.

Conor has beaten more top LWs then Tony. Deal with it.
 
NotoriousMillions said:
Conor is the best striker in MMA and it's not even close, lmao. Nobody cares about your crying, it's fact. Nobody has accomplished what Conor has striking. Get over it, deal with it.

Conor has beaten more top LWs then Tony. Deal with it.
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I do not agree with you at all. The problem is that Conor won’t defend a title. We will never know how good he really is.
 
Lol. Barboza trying to get big pay day? McGregor is real champ and Tony is guy with toy belt (beat Kevin Lee for belt. What a joke)
 
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