Will leave it at that. Pretty dramatic. Crash Love was so bad. I haven't listened since DU. It took me a long time to even accept Sing The Sorrow, and that was only bc I saw them live and the show was amazing. The Art Of Drowning was my favorite album ever at the time, I was heartbroken by how dramatically different STS was when I bought it the day it was released. I shattered that CD I was so pissed off.