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Not really but....

Every day 28 people die in an alcohol-related car accident

  • In 2015, 10,265 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (29%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.
  • 209 0 to 14 yr old were killed in 2015
  • The annual cost of alcohol-related crashes totals more than $44 billion
https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html

So due to alcohol 10,000 people a year die. There Is zero benefit to alcohol.

That's just traffic accidents.



In 2017 there were 15,549 people killed by guns in the United States in 2017.

https://www.thetrace.org/rounds/gun-deaths-increase-2017/

We'll look at that those numbers..Those are pretty comparable. I don't understand why we're not all talking about banning alcohol. what's the difference?

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I don't think alcohol, or guns should be banned. But, it needs to be more difficult to get a weapon, and we need to start tracking purchases and purchasing patterns.


Much tougher background checks, and a longer waiting period. Magazine limits at a Federal level, and a complete overhaul of gun shows, and resale of firearms.
 
we should definitely make drinking and driving illegal i agree.
 
America had a terrible alcohol problem in the 20s which caused the banning of alcohol which resulted in a large decrease in alcoholism that never crept back up after abolition ended.

Thanks for pointing this out TS.
 
It seems a large majority of people are willing to tolerate those stats the same way they are willing to tolerate gun deaths.

Like guns, alcohol is too culturally entrenched. Neither gus nor alcohol have given people in the US an "Omagh moment" despite the carnage.

Banning alcohol didn't work too well the last time around, but it did make the Kennedy's rich (although this is actually in some dispute) and the closest thing Americans have to royalty in terms of mystique.
 
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Only 10,619 people died from cocaine in 2016. That's barely more than from car crashes that involved alcohol. Let's legalize cocaine.
 
You know we tried that before, right?
 
HomerThompson said:
I don't think alcohol, or guns should be banned. But, it needs to be more difficult to get a weapon, and we need to start tracking purchases and purchasing patterns.


Much tougher background checks, and a longer waiting period. Magazine limits at a Federal level, and a complete overhaul of gun shows, and resale of firearms.
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I have no problem to make it "harder" to buy a gun.
I have no problem with a waiting period.
Magazine limits in my opinion would be ineffective.
Gun shows in Texas- I can buy a gun without a background check. I agree that could be updated.
 
Mark Hunts FIST said:
I have no problem to make it "harder" to buy a gun.
I have no problem with a waiting period.
Magazine limits in my opinion would be ineffective.
Gun shows in Texas- I can buy a gun without a background check. I agree that could be updated.
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Holy shit! Agreement!!

{<redford}
 
Mark Hunts FIST said:
If I had to bury my family member, intent means nothing to me to be honest.
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intent helps gear punishments to fit the crime

if punishments dont fit the crime you may see people taking a more extreme crime on the chance that they get away.
 
Mark Hunts FIST said:
Not really but....

Every day 28 people die in an alcohol-related car accident

  • In 2015, 10,265 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (29%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.
  • 209 0 to 14 yr old were killed in 2015
  • The annual cost of alcohol-related crashes totals more than $44 billion
https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html

So due to alcohol 10,000 people a year die. There Is zero benefit to alcohol.

That's just traffic accidents.



In 2017 there were 15,549 people killed by guns in the United States in 2017.

https://www.thetrace.org/rounds/gun-deaths-increase-2017/

We'll look at that those numbers..Those are pretty comparable. I don't understand why we're not all talking about banning alcohol. what's the difference?

Legit question
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Zero benefit? Maybe for you. For some, like the current WR President, they were conceived because of it.
 
Mark Hunts FIST said:
Not really but....

Every day 28 people die in an alcohol-related car accident

  • In 2015, 10,265 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (29%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.
  • 209 0 to 14 yr old were killed in 2015
  • The annual cost of alcohol-related crashes totals more than $44 billion
https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html

So due to alcohol 10,000 people a year die. There Is zero benefit to alcohol.

That's just traffic accidents.



In 2017 there were 15,549 people killed by guns in the United States in 2017.

https://www.thetrace.org/rounds/gun-deaths-increase-2017/

We'll look at that those numbers..Those are pretty comparable. I don't understand why we're not all talking about banning alcohol. what's the difference?

Legit question
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315 Americans are shot every day. 96 of those people die from their injuries. There's a mass shooting nearly every day -- in fact, in the span of a year it's statistically accurate to say there is a mass shooting every day. It's only in the context of many years that the rate drops to less than one per day.

Your comparison needs rethinking.
 
Ban this poison from the realms of men. Send this vile liquid back down to the deepest depths of hell.
 
Mark Hunts FIST said:
Not really but....

Every day 28 people die in an alcohol-related car accident

  • In 2015, 10,265 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (29%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.
  • 209 0 to 14 yr old were killed in 2015
  • The annual cost of alcohol-related crashes totals more than $44 billion
https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html

So due to alcohol 10,000 people a year die. There Is zero benefit to alcohol.

That's just traffic accidents.



In 2017 there were 15,549 people killed by guns in the United States in 2017.

https://www.thetrace.org/rounds/gun-deaths-increase-2017/

We'll look at that those numbers..Those are pretty comparable. I don't understand why we're not all talking about banning alcohol. what's the difference?

Legit question
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Lol, I love it. This is what I keep trying to tell the gun grabbers. Learn from the failed war on drugs, and the failed prohibition era.

You will only create a black market, that can never be eradicated, and turn that trade into a violent never ending cycle that kills more people, then the problem you intend to solve.
 
HomerThompson said:
I don't think alcohol, or guns should be banned. But, it needs to be more difficult to get a weapon, and we need to start tracking purchases and purchasing patterns.


Much tougher background checks, and a longer waiting period. Magazine limits at a Federal level, and a complete overhaul of gun shows, and resale of firearms.
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But why do we need those things?

Show me the shooting that would be stopped by these regulations.
 
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