At Yale, we conducted an experiment to turn conservatives into liberals.

I'm not getting into defending or critiquing their specific study. I was only pointing out that maximizing personal financial enrichment isn't a conservative or liberal principle. That it's an individual vs. society dynamic and, moreover, the study is about social issues, not fiscal ones.

For another perspective, when liberals are forced to think about their own deaths, they adopt more conservative policy decisions. This was shown as far back as 2003. It goes both ways.

I guess the logic that poor people only vote liberal because it enriches them applies to your reasoning. But, in terms of self enriching (via net gains and not handouts) the conservative side seems to have a lot more support as seen by voting demographic on income.

And the study is about both but the fear aspect only applied to social issues.
 
I guess the logic that poor people only vote liberal because it enriches them applies to your reasoning. But, in terms of self enriching (via net gains and not handouts) the conservative side seems to have a lot more support as seen by voting demographic on income.

And the study is about both but the fear aspect only applied to social issues.

Your first sentence doesn't apply to my reasoning. Plenty of poor people vote conservative and plenty of rich people vote liberal.

The conservative side doesn't have more support via self-enrichment. The GOP has more support - which is not necessarily the same thing. The GOP previously adhered to the economic idea that tax cuts for businesses would invigorate the economy. This is appealing to people who own businesses because it personally enriches them. It's not appealing to them because it follows conservative ideology.

It has nothing to do with conservative ideology or principles, it's purely an economics conversation.
 
So, if you're invulnerable, you're more likely to not carry about rapists and criminals. Makes sense.
 
So, if you're invulnerable, you're more likely to not carry about rapists and criminals. Makes sense.
The less fear for your own safety, the more you allocate care for others. When a person has fear, they are self-focused..... for very deep and obvious reasons.
 
I find it strange then that the vast majority of people who work in the most dangerous professions tend to be conservatives. If they’re so fearful or risk-averse wouldn’t they have chosen less dangerous careers?

Oil workers, loggers, pilots, law enforcement, military, farming, miners, forestry, truck drivers, fishermen... all skew conservative. Business owners skew conservative but professional poker players lean very liberal, so for financial risk maybe it’s a wash.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-probably-a-democrat/?utm_term=.fb35323dc0f1


No, it's just that those professions do not require you to have an education or be particularly intelligent
 
I wonder if there was a difference in outcome based upon Yale students that were admitted due to merit and those admitted due to legacy?
 
I find it strange then that the vast majority of people who work in the most dangerous professions tend to be conservatives. If they’re so fearful or risk-averse wouldn’t they have chosen less dangerous careers?

Oil workers, loggers, pilots, law enforcement, military, farming, miners, forestry, truck drivers, fishermen... all skew conservative. Business owners skew conservative but professional poker players lean very liberal, so for financial risk maybe it’s a wash.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-probably-a-democrat/?utm_term=.fb35323dc0f1


You nailed it.

This is just a thinly veiled "Conservatives are afraid of change/brown people" attack by the Washington Compost.

Nothing to see here.
 
if conservatism is rooted in fear then why are liberals the biggest pussies ?

First, we reminded our nationwide sample of liberals and conservatives about the threat of the flu virus (during the H1N1 epidemic), and then measured their attitudes toward immigration. Afterward we simply asked them if they’d already gotten their flu shot or not. It turned out that those who had not gotten a flu shot (feeling threatened) expressed more negative attitudes toward immigration, while those who had received the vaccination (feeling safe) had more positive attitudes about immigration.

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See this is what you call retarded liberal logic.

Brb i'm getting my flu shot so I could change my stance on immigration LMAO
 
The less fear for your own safety, the more you allocate care for others. When a person has fear, they are self-focused..... for very deep and obvious reasons.
This is touched on in Harris's recent book, it's also a reason religious fear and ortbodox religions push people towards xenophobia, even if it is somewhat subconsciously imo.
 
Trotskyists are political neophytes

I am a licensed attorney with a law degree from a top 20 law school

Sociology

Perhaps you have more in common with the ruling classes bud. Look sorry but as someone who has studied sociology surely you can see the hypocrisy of all these upperclass toffs and their so called support for the "working man" against the ruling elite. Why do modern communists lack the blue collar support that they all supposedly represent....

What is the point of Trotskyism, we arent serfs. It just seems like such an outdated ideology.
 
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I find it strange then that the vast majority of people who work in the most dangerous professions tend to be conservatives. If they’re so fearful or risk-averse wouldn’t they have chosen less dangerous careers?

Oil workers, loggers, pilots, law enforcement, military, farming, miners, forestry, truck drivers, fishermen... all skew conservative. Business owners skew conservative but professional poker players lean very liberal, so for financial risk maybe it’s a wash.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-probably-a-democrat/?utm_term=.fb35323dc0f1
They might chose a dangerous profession to get some grip on their fears in a "controlled" environment.
 
When my daughter was growing up, she often wanted to rush off to do fun things with her friends — get into the water at the beach, ride off on her bike — without taking the proper safety precautions first. I’d have to stop her in her tracks to first put on the sunscreen, or her bike helmet and knee pads, with her standing there impatiently. “Safety first, fun second,” was my mantra.

Keeping ourselves and our loved ones safe from harm is perhaps our strongest human motivation, deeply embedded in our very DNA. It is so deep and important that it influences much of what we think and do, maybe more than we might expect. For example, over a decade now of research in political psychology consistently shows that how physically threatened or fearful a person feels is a key factor — although clearly not the only one — in whether he or she holds conservative or liberal attitudes.

the full article is here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-political-divisions/?utm_term=.b0c4cc69b903

Interesting that most soldiers have traditionally been conservative, yet this study shows that they should be liberal.
 
If conservatives have a larger "fear center" why is it liberals are afraid of words?

Because leftists wish to control the language, which in turn will aid them in controlling the narrative...

They are without question the greatest threat to free speech.
 
I don't feel like reading the entire article, so please summarize.

Either way, we know Yale students are overwhelmingly overwhelmingly "liberal" because in our current political environment, the alternative is being an anti-intellectual, anti-economics, anti-science, anti-history, pro-being a shithead rube.

And I bet the test subjects, universally being either brilliant, or brilliantly hardworking and scrupulous, were resistant to being converted into such.

TLDR; Conservatives are actually scared little pussies.
 
On what planet is conservative ideology for the middle class allowing them to keep more of their money?

The fact they want to take away social security, Medicare, remove healthcare, get crushed with a tax plan and take away every social service imaginable.

Middle class people want two things. Cheap gas & Mc.Mansions.

Everything else is an afterthought.
 
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