Ask a top tier amateur gamer anything

i was in clan x17 on sc1, pretty solid sc and diablo player. i think i got master 1v1 11 times on sc2. dont play those anymore.
 
Treeloy said:
i was in clan x17 on sc1, pretty solid sc and diablo player. i think i got master 1v1 11 times on sc2. dont play those anymore.
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Nice man!! I hung with clan x17 guys all the time they had a good public channel! Found a lot of my private 2v2 games in there. Played sc2 a bit but never got into it like bw
 
I was a top player in a couple games and supported myself for awhile with gaming income. But I gave it up completely about 6 years ago. There's no real consistent money in gaming. Waste of time.
 
Lubaolong said:
I was a top player in a couple games and supported myself for awhile with gaming income. But I gave it up completely about 6 years ago. There's no real consistent money in gaming. Waste of time.
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Some guys do quite well these days streaming on Twitch
 
The Best JG said:
Some guys do quite well these days streaming on Twitch
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Maybe the very top few. I don't know how accurate it is, but I've read the average pro streamer makes around $40-50k a year. I guess it's fine for sitting in your underwear and gaming for the average guy, but I'm a dr now and make a lot more than this. And I have a low tolerance for uncertainty and ups and downs in income.
 
echohead said:
Wow this thread.
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Someone posted a study awhile ago either here or on another place i visit. It dealt with how the majority of people rate themselves in tasks in relation to professionals and novices. Consensus was that the majority always listed their ability as slightly above average. Even though when elements used to test their abilities would list them below the median.

His post followed this structure in some places but not all. Leading me to believe theirs some genuine humility with his post.
 
ahh warcraft 2... dating myself here but I played the shit out that game one year in college. I was a stud muffin'... My ogre bloodlust bum rush was the stuff of legends. used to be able to destroy average players 1v3. When I quit I had not met anyone who could beat me in that game 1v1 but that was when the internet was still young and there were no global matching games. It coulda steered my life towards professional gaming but I ended being an engineer... :(

side note: funny story about a mac game called marathon. It was basically unreal tourney before unreal tourney came out and it was a huge game on my campus. extremely competitive. Anyway I played the first semester and was tearing people up. Early in the 2nd semester I had moved onto other games. 3rd semester (I went to Drexel and it was trimester school), I got this message from a random student on my comp requesting a 1v1 challenge. I was like "wtf? why you want to challenge bro?". he replied I was ranked 4th on the list of the best marathoners and he wanted to take my spot. I was like "waaahhht" I had stopped playing that game months ago. So he challenged me and beat me. Then I get a messaged from this kid (SN John Shaft) who was considered the best in the game and he told me he made that list and wanted and challenged me 1v1 to confirm I was no longer competitive. He destroyed me then promptly removed me from the list. But I thought it was funny that I was considered a top tier gamer long after I had stopped playing.

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QUESTION - I actually did have one. How often did you play throughout you gaming career. hours on Average per day/week/month? With our without part full time job? What was your best year in terms of making money?
 
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Lubaolong said:
I was a top player in a couple games and supported myself for awhile with gaming income. But I gave it up completely about 6 years ago. There's no real consistent money in gaming. Waste of time.
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I played a lot of fighting games and FPS competitively.
Got some wins but nothing substantial to live off of.
A lot of people look at these twitch streamers and think it's an easy pay day. Spend all this money buying streaming equipment and PC hardware just to find out nobody gives 2 shits about their stream because you can't buy a likable personality.
I've seen this happen to so many people, friends included, and they think it's an actual revenue for income.
The fact is only 5% of streamers, if that, make enough money to live off of.
Everyone looks at these one-percenters and think they could do the same.

Waste of time and money unless:
a) you have a great personality, humor, and decent gaming skills
b) big ol' tatas
c) tons of followers already
 
I too, squint at snowy trees in battlefield 1 for long, sustained periods of time before my helmet explodes
 
Do gamers with YouTube channels make enough money from YouTube to not need to work a regular job?
 
Can't go around calling yourself a top tier gamer when you're currently into Rocket League.
 
cool thread.

Would you say that the fact that you didn't become pro was attributable to the hours you put in compared to others who put even more, or was it just raw abilities?

BTW I find these hours absolutely insane. I have very rarely played 5 hours + per day and when I did I felt disgusting after.
 
The Best JG said:
hi boys!! Want to give any young and budding gamers an opportunity to ask a veteran any questions they feel like! I am 34 btw

I started competitive pvp gaming with Warcraft 2 on kali in the 90s... i wasnt great but it was a good learning experience
My first big game where i was able to dominate people online was diablo 1.. i played legit/ pure characters and with proper counter builds i was undefeated dueling on my lvl 40+ war and rogue. The community of strong players was a chan called "legit" on us east bnet

After that was starcraft, my longest played game of all time, and my first game where i was able to compete in and win tournaments. I played mostly 2v2.. hung out mostly in clan x17 chan or like DS clan chan when i was in DS.. this is the first game where i was at a level where i could meet professional gamers. I met guillaume patry (x'ds~grrrr...) while playing sc, one of the best players world wide before koreans took over, played with testie for years (who was one of best north american players), i met sal garrozo (3d volcano) while playing starcraft, we went on to play counter strike together, and he eventually became on of the best CS 1.6 players in the world, winning top tournaments with team 3D, a long time best north american team. Sal is overall the best gamer i have ever met. At his peak when 1v1 against him for practice, it felt like playing against a cheater, but i knew he was legit as we competed together, were friends, and he competed at many live lans by then.

Which brings us to CS. I played in cal-m before there was a cal-p, so there was only a 16 team cal-i above cal-m. I was about a mid tier cal-m player competitively. But of course there was no match making at the time so when joining public servers to play for fun i could often destroy the game 40-5 or so and get banned for "cheating" by a sore admin.

After that was my next big game, and the game i feel was my peak over my career. Wow arenas. My greatest success was playing resto shaman where at my peak (seasons 2-5) i was able to hit about 2600 rating in all brackets and achieve gladiator. My highest rank was top 30 shaman worldwide when it was at about 10 million subscribers. I was an absolute monster in battlegrounds and arenas, and i could play any class at about a 2200+ level, but shaman was my best.

After that i went into league of legends. In the beta my friends and I were able to win the first ever tournament they held called "baron nashor tournament" and i was able to hit beta grandmaster (top 100) for the beta overall (still have summoner icon). Here i was able to meet and play with a lot of guys who became pro lol gamers such as dyrus, hotshotgg, reginald, etc etc. However at this point i was working full time and getting older, so ive been mostly a platinum level player in league. Diamond is really a struggle, i have hit it in 3s but not in 5s solo queue. The kids a very good these days and diamond players are quite challenging for me at this point.
I also play hearthstone now and then and am able to hit legend if i put in the time. It takes a solid deck and about 200 games played

Other than that, i currently play rocket league, pubg, and heroes of the storm once in a while

So thats my gaming career, never professional but i definitely fell into the top tier of the amateur game at certain points, so if you are a curious gamer, ask me anything!
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I understand only half of the words you use.

I'm such a noob, it isn't even funny.

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KBE6EKCTAH_CCP said:
I have very rarely played 5 hours + per day and when I did I felt disgusting after.
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Why do you waste so much time on video games when you could play superior tabletop games?
 
Lubaolong said:
Maybe the very top few. I don't know how accurate it is, but I've read the average pro streamer makes around $40-50k a year. I guess it's fine for sitting in your underwear and gaming for the average guy, but I'm a dr now and make a lot more than this. And I have a low tolerance for uncertainty and ups and downs in income.
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Understandable! If you are happy as a doctor then gaming should remain a hobby!
 
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