Arrest warrant issued for Canadian Imam. Charge is Incitement.

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  1. MicroBrew

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    An iman at a Montreal mosque has had a warrant issued for his arrest, stemming from the follwing statement he made during a sermon: "Sheikh Muhammad ibn Musa Al Nasr called Jews “the worst of mankind” and expressed his hope that Muslims would slaughter them on Judgment Day, according to a statement by B’nai Brith."

    The mosque has NOT apologized and its YouTube channel features the sermon. Several other Muslim groups did condemn the iman.

    http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...ued-for-imam-who-called-for-jews-to-be-killed

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    Honest question: Is it really incitement since he specifies the slaughter should take place on "Judgement Day" which to me denotes a religious end-time phenomena , and as such it is just a mythological date . If he had said "slaughter them" or "slaughter them soon" then I would agree it is incitement.

    I always come down in favor of free speech and only support a very narrow definition of what constitues incitement and threat. So even though I dispise the genocidal religion called Islam and Islamic supremacists like this guy , I favor free-speech over feelings. This is Canada so they have hate-crime laws too. But here in the US would what he said be illegal?
     
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    US would be legal, Canada wouldnt.

    Im in favor of indictment because if muslims want laws to defend them from hate speech, then laws should also punish them for the same.
     
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    I prefer US law where he would probably not be charged but obviously US law isn't so relevant to a Canadian Imam. Just because I don't agree with the law doesn't mean I don't think it should be applied though. Would definitely be applied if it was incitement against Muslims so incitement by Muslims should also be taken seriously.
     
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    Oh I agree on the indicetement but Hate speech laws in the West aren not applied equally. These Western countries with their Hate-Crime law, are inherently hypocritic. They will go after individuals like this guy or some gentile who makes a racist or sectarian comment but they give a pass to powerful established religions that justify and preach supremacist ideals.

    If you are going to charge people for hate-speech (be it verbal or writing) then it should be across the board and no religion should not get a pass.
     
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    Trudeau will probably pay the Imam 10.5 million dollars and give him an apology.
     
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    I agree, free speech must be protected. Freedom for Moslems? Not so much. I think he should be deported to Saudi where he belongs. In fact, that goes for every other Moslem out there too.
     
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  10. Trudeau trying to recover the voters he lost by giving 10 mil to that terrorist
     
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    They get pretty loose with speech qualification in Canada. This is as close to "incitement" as half the shit people get busted for is to "hate speech".
     
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    I'll wait for Trudeau to apologize & give the Imam millions of dollars. Canadian, so probably around $320 USD.
     
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    has mainstream tv news covered this? I'm talking tv, not low traffic web news.
     
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    Is it iman or imam? I keep seeing both spellings.
     
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    Even if I disagree I can respect that you are honest with your xenophobia

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    Not so hard to be honest about it anonymously.
     
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    >Member since july 7
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    lol
     
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    It's more of an intense feeling of dislike than a phobia really. I mean, I feel the same thing about nazism as I do about Islam, but I don't consider myself a naziphobe either.
     
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    This is an iman:

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    Definitely haram.
     
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    Ridiculous.

    The abrahamic religious texts are filled with hate speech, especially the Quran - where violence and hate are its foundational tenet.
     

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