Arguments against homosexuality being natrual | Page 9

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    Gentlemen, brace yourselves: once upon a time, you were a girl. Strictly speaking, when you were just an overgrown ball of cells in the womb you were female—but fortunately a few things happened along the way to ensure you were all man by birth.

    During the first few weeks of fetus development, the baby's internal and external genital structures are the same, regardless of whether you are ultimately going to be a boy or a girl.

    They have two sets of organs: one that can develop into the female sex organs and one that can develop into the male sex organs.

    The gonads will become ovaries or testicles, the phallus will become a clitoris or a penis, and the genital folds will become labia or scrotum. Which sex organs develop depends on the presence of the male hormone testosterone (in humans, the default sex is female).

    A person who is a hermaphrodite has both female and male genital characteristics and can also be called intersex people. This typically means that the organs on the inside are of one sex, while the organs on the outside are of another sex; for example, a hermaphrodite might have a penis and testicles, but inside, there are ovaries and possibly a uterus. In more rare cases, the chromosomes say a person is male or female, but the genitals say otherwise. They are not able to self-fertilize, because either their testicular tissue or their ovarian tissue wouldn’t function normally.
     
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    Moron, you're saying it's ok cause it occurs in nature. So I brought up other things that occur in nature but you can't handle that apparently.

    Let's make it easier then. Is it ok for consenting adults to engage in incest? Should they be able to marry? How about adult polygamists? Do you fight for their equal treatment under the law? Or are you one of those homo activists who thinks only butt-pirates deserve special recognition?

    Is it natural for humans to eat feces cause animals do? Notice how you skipped over that one?
     
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    Actually you are the moron by dear boy. If you see my first post I merely scoffed at the notion it is unnatural as it occurs frequently in nature/across the animal kingdom therefore it literally fits the definition of being natural. I didn't say anything about it being "okay"

    No matter how hard you and others wan't to try, you simply cant bring up the realm of nature in this argument to help your case and its comical watching you all try. I equate it with an Asperger child helplessly trying to smash a puzzle piece in a place it can't fit and being baffled at this conundrum.





    Sure, as long as the incense case doesn't produce offspring due to the the possible genetic mishaps for their spawn.

    Oh yes you finally broke the age old argument. Shit eating is the checkmate for this discussion.
     
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    It's funny, you wrote all that nonsense but couldn't refute a single point I made. You're the moron who brought up animals as a justification for ass-banditry, but you can't handle when other animal behaviour is brought up. You think you can pick and choose what's natural when it suits your argument.

    You obviously can't defend your side adequately so run along and go back to eating crayons.
     
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    I refuted every point you made. You equated issues revolving around morality with one where no harm is done to anyone and then harped on about me laughing at you not understanding what the word natural means. You then proceeded to take that as an omission of me saying homosexuality is okay when it's simply me laughing at how simple minded you are.

    If you want to be opposed to gayness knock yourself out but by no means try to bring logic into the argument as it fails time and time again as highlighted above.

    Just walk away man walk away ya done

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    What harm is done with incest, polygamy, or eating feces? Funny how you forget those examples when they don't fit your narrative. You bring up the animal kingdom when it's convenient, but want cry about morality when it's not. Can't have it both ways champ.

    Either ditch the animal argument or explain why humans shouldn't engage in other behaviours that animals partake in.

    The simple fact is that the sodomite lifestyle is an aberration. It's unnatural and not what was intended. That doesn't mean they should be persecuted, but the fact remains that their behaviour runs counter to how humans are supposed to be. Anyone who takes an 8th grade biology course can understand this, but not you apparently.
     
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    It's apparent its hard for you to follow along with a thought but bare with me. You already falsely assumed i was a pro butt pirate activist who favored special treatment for homosexuals and brought up incest and multiple spouses.

    Again no harm is done in either unless the related partnership produces offspring. As far as eating feces ,well many animals eat their feces to consume back nutrients needed in their digestive system(see rabbits for example) but humans do not need to do this. Though again someone eating their shit does little harm to society or others so any poop eaters out there can knock themselves out.

    Are you drunk? Look back at post #163. I responded to your comparison immediately


    No you created a straw man and seem intent on believing i didn't respond to it when i blatantly did. My only comment on morality sprouted from you comparing murder to homosexuality. Clearly comparing and act that causes harm to one that is entirely harmless is silly and thus is why one is seen as abhorrent by the general public and the other only seems to bother religious extremists and people who cant seem to make a sensible argument for why its so wrong. Case in point see below



    Ah, the ol simple fact retort when one can explain their opinion sensibly. Let me guess people who don't agree with you just cant get it and you wont bother to explain either huh?


    Theres that word again.

    Under what guidelines are we operating under with this? Philosophical or biological? If its the latter as noted earlier spanking your monkey wasn't "intended." Hell neither is contraception. Stop me if I'm sounding crazy here but sex has also become largely a means for simple physical gratification. Astounding i know.
     
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    If you want people to read your posts you need to learn to make them concise. You took up half the page with your response, and I don't need to read it to already know it's bullshit.

    It's unnatural because it's not how humans were intended to be. It's an aberration from the norm. Nothing you say can change this. If humans were meant to be like that then humanity would cease to exist in a hundred years. Your only answer to that is that it's not widespread, which is basically like saying it's ok cause only a minority do it. That means it's abnormal, because something can't be normal if the consequence of everyone doing it would be the end of the human species.

    Also, you bashed religion in previous posts. Please show me where I used religion as a reason for disagreeing with that behaviour. Seems like you're the one creating strawmen.
     
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    You have sex with your urethra?
     
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    Yes. Do you?
     
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    Translation: Big words me no understand


    Plenty of people have sex with out the intention of procreation. I'm sure you've done so plenty of times. I dont know why you and others here are on some sort of attempt at a biological high horse and act like your guardians over the sacred seed of continuation of the species. Oh wait yes i do its called grasping. You do so when its convenient for you.


    I didn't say anything about your thoughts being motivated by religion i noted that was one of the three major talking points the people who have a problem with homosexuality fall back on. Perhaps my posts would be less long winded if your reading comprehension wasnt at such a deplorable level. Funny how i am not the only poster here whos noted that about you.
     
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    Sorry. I know goobers can be a difficult thing to understand, especially for people who don't have them. Try reading the link below.

    The penis: everything you need to know
    http://sex.sofeminine.co.uk/mag/relationships/d476/x4762.html
     
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    Maybe if you learned how to write properly you'd be easier to understand.
     
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    Sorry, can't see anything. Try again, Mongo.
     
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    Ever heard of the "Gay Uncle Hypothesis"? It's a decent theory that explains how homosexuality can be advantageous at the species level, which is more useful than looking at it from the individual level.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation#Gay_uncle_hypothesis

    Imagine this scenario:
    Your parents had 2 kids, you and your brother. You are straight, but your brother is gay. You both go through school, get decent grades, and get jobs out of college. You get married and have a couple of kids, while your brother never gets married. Since he doesn't have kids, he gives them fancy birthday and Christmas presents with his disposable income. When your brother dies, he bequeaths his assets to your kids, which helps them raise your grand children.
     
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    Wrong. You were XX or XY at the time of conception. Always a male or always a female.
     
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    You are right about the XX and XY. I'm talking about fetus development. Development of the sexual organs. All males started out with a 'vagina' before it became a penis.
     
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    AIDS/STD statistics?
     
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    Ya. I use my dick, and semen comes out of my urethra, which urine also comes out of, making the penis a 'waste disposal unit'.

    Once again, your argument fails, and you resort to disingenuous word games.
     
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