Are there really people who consider GSP one of the GOATs? Or are they just trolling?

[kwd1253]

People say Jones the goat but who has really beat? Only 3 elite fighters maybe 4. DC, gustafsson, St.Preux. maybe Vitor since he was on trt.

Dc 1 time/2nd fight he had juice to beat dc. gustafsson which 50% people say won or lost the fight and refused have rematch with gustafsson.
St.Preux which Jones didn't look good at all in that fight.

Now let's be truthful at time he fought rest of the people pass there time or just good fighter.

Shogun- hot and cold never was the same as his pride days busted up knees and what not.

Lyota- true mw, shogun wrote the book how beat him, then he was rapped Jones and other MW fighters. Afraid get hit reason he fights the way does.

Rampage- not the smartest fighter. Has some tools but just wants box try knock someone out , which throws slow you can see his punches a mile away. Runs to bellator for easier fights. Always cries about money than training get better, wait he cries about training too!

Rashad- overrated at the time, which was really mw after getting off the cake diet and still ate a lot humble pie dropping to mw.

Glover- too tough for his own good at times, takes lot damage wanting to stand and box.

Ryan - fought jones way to early in his career, didn't have enough fights against top guys like he did after fighting Jones.

Cheal, Brandon, O'Brian don't make me laugh.

Oh there the 2 times he pissed hot for roids. Great goat states there.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

GSP
Fedor

Are really the guys right now with Anderson testing positive yet again. This argument is so old.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

GSP and Fedor

The two men most people consider to be the best of all time, also are two men that never call themselves that and are very humble about it. Only the fans want to argue like little kids about it. They don’t care.

 

[HHJ]

 

[aali14]

Didn't read but I agree with you TS, GSP is the GOAT for sure

 

[xMaxPower]

It's most certainly a suspicious indication.

not really man... even if you arent on roids, athletes are expected to be in really good shape.... especially fighters. Even a lot of normal people like me are 10% and drink protrin shakes. (weigh isolate)... (not those disgusting mass gainers that make you gain weight in general and not just Lean muscle)

 

[NotoriousMillions]

Is there even really a GOAT?

Picture of a real GOAT.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

Yeah, he's the GOAT bro!!! A real killer!
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GOAT blanket for sure.

YOU'RE such a dilutional kid. Try expanding that picture of GSP record u see...
Jay Heiron 1:42 r1 TKO
D Strasser 1:52 r1 sub
Frank Trigg 4:09 r1 sub
Sean sherk 2:53 R2 TKO
Matt Hughes 1:25 R2 tko (you know that loss you thought he needed a judges decision)
Matt Hughes 4:54 r2 sub
Matt Serra 4:45 r2 tko (that loss u again though needed a judges decision)
BJ Penn tko r4 refuses to enter the ring with GSP that's how bad he was beaten.
Michael Bisping 4:23 r3 sub

That's a great look of epic finishes you're to bind to see.
Nick Diaz is a good measuring stick, GSP raped him for 5 rounds and sent nick to the hospital, retiring him for 2 years. Anderson NC(win) 3-2 rounds pumped full of PEDs and Nate arguing he won and took the fight so lightly he showed up high.

 

[That209]

you cant finish when you fight with pillows on your hands

Georges doesn't actually have pillow fists, though. The thing is that he stopped committing to his strikes after Serra mauled him. Before that (loss to Serra), he was dropping and finishing basically all of his opponents pretty easily. He showed a good amount of power in his hands back then and still to this day he has power, he just doesn't put as much heat into his strikes anymore. He preferred to land strikes just to score instead of actually hurt his opponents. So he doesn't have pillow fists, he just doesn't commit to his strikes as much as he used to and I believe it's out of fear of being countered hard, hurt and finished like what happened against Serra the first time. He showed that he still has power against Bisping recently. The power is there still and always was.

 

[RMF1]

GOAT definition = Greatest of all time.

Let's repeat......GREATEST OF ALL TIME.



Ask yourself......would a fighter who is considered "greatest of all time":


Go 5 YEARS without being able to finish a single opponent?

Need to rely on scorecards and boring, repetitive lay and pray for "wins"?

Tap to strikes, by a smaller fighter no less?

Need vaseline to cheat, in order to beat SMALLER fighters?





Now let's have a crash course on WIN QUALITY.

All "wins" are not created equal, and any idiot knows this, except GSP fans apparently. Which of these 2 kinds of wins is more dominant?

This?

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Or this?
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Want a laugh? Watch how far GSP fans will reach to try and fool themselves that somehow decisioning someone is just as dominant as putting them to sleep.


You have to literally be either from Canada, or a troll to include GSP's name among the ranks of these killers...

GSP is absolutely a top tier fighter, the same way Cormier, and MM are top tier. The difference is that Cormier and MM can actually finish fights. You can't be an ELITE fighter if you rely on score cards, judges and decisions to "win" fights. True GOATS mostly beat their opponents so bad, that they cant continue fighting.



Cliffnotes: GOATS are KILLERS.

GSP being one of the GOATS?

LOL!

Is this a real question?

Its not up for debate. GSP is one of the all time greats.

Accept it.

 

[Chuck]

 

[ShreddinMMA]

Sounds like another person salty over GSP having the most impressive achievements in MMA.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

as far as MMA prize fighting goes, Conor McGregor is the GOAT

 

[JackSchtotll]

Anderson?














Almost double digit losses.

Fought in a weak division.

Isn’t as skilled as the other candidates.

2X busted for PED’s



Anderson, one of the GOATS?

Perrichet hating on anderson

 

[JackSchtotll]

its mostly dorks looking for attention

hes at best 2nd tier in goat discussion

Amen.

He's number 8 in my list....

 

[JackSchtotll]

He also tapped to an armlock, and that's far worse than tapping to strikes. Ask any doctor, the long term consequences of being struck in the head when you're already concussed is far worse than a broken arm. That's why medical associations like the BMA and CMA are trying to ban boxing and MMA, but not judo or BJJ. A broken arm is no big thing medically, modern medicine is very good at patching that up. A severe concussion is a lifelong thing that modern medicine can do nothing with.

Only people with no medical knowledge (or knowledge decades out of date) think tapping to strikes is worse than tapping to locks. And tapping to chokes is even worse, since if you're revived immediately there are almost no consequences, long term or short term. In judo and BJJ people are put to sleep, revived, and continue practice a couple of minutes later.

So if tapping is disqualifying, then tapping to chokes is the worst, then tapping to locks is not quite as bad, then tapping to strikes not as bad as either of those. So if tapping to strikes is a disqualifier for GOAT list, then tapping to chokes and locks are huge disqualifiers, and the only candidates for GOAT are fighters who've never tapped to anything. Of the four usual candidates (Jones, Anderson, GSP, and Fedor), that leaves Jones, who has PED problems.

Presumably the GOAT is none of those four.

blah blah blah

is that all you do? Go around looking for strike-tapping arguments to bicker?

 

[JackSchtotll]

Well, Jones hasnt finished anyone in 5 years either. In fact the last guy of his size that he finished was 7 years ago against an already washed up Rampage Jackson. His last finish was 5 years ago against perrenial MW Chael Sonnen.

AS hasnt finished a fight in 6 years, his last finish being against journeyman Stephan Bonnar.

So there goes your stupid piece of shit thread, debunked in two sentences.

LOL, you didn't debunk crap.

It's about how dominant they were in their peaks. Both Jones and Silva were finishing everybody...GSP's last finish was in 2009, before he faced the weakest champ in UFC MW history.

Stop lying to yourself, wake up.

 

[AnotherOldGuy]

blah blah blah

is that all you do? Go around looking for strike-tapping arguments to bicker?

Everyone needs a hobby. Some people's hobby is to criticize fighters who tap to strikes. Other folks hobby is to criticize people who criticize fighters who tap to strikes.

 

[JackSchtotll]

Everyone needs a hobby. Some people's hobby is to criticize fighters who tap to strikes. Other folks hobby is to criticize people who criticize fighters who tap to strikes.

Tapping to strikes is an abomination.

 

[truthisfreedom]

YOU'RE such a dilutional kid. Try expanding that picture of GSP record u see...
Jay Heiron 1:42 r1 TKO
D Strasser 1:52 r1 sub
Frank Trigg 4:09 r1 sub
Sean sherk 2:53 R2 TKO
Matt Hughes 1:25 R2 tko (you know that loss you thought he needed a judges decision)
Matt Hughes 4:54 r2 sub
Matt Serra 4:45 r2 tko (that loss u again though needed a judges decision)
BJ Penn tko r4 refuses to enter the ring with GSP that's how bad he was beaten.
Michael Bisping 4:23 r3 sub

That's a great look of epic finishes you're to bind to see.
Nick Diaz is a good measuring stick, GSP raped him for 5 rounds and sent nick to the hospital, retiring him for 2 years. Anderson NC(win) 3-2 rounds pumped full of PEDs and Nate arguing he won and took the fight so lightly he showed up high.

Weird......why did GSP duck Silva for so long then?