Are low singles a dick move in bjj?

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  1. Uchi Mata

    Uchi Mata Preaching the gospel of heel hooks and left kicks

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    No, it's not a dick move. It's just a good move. Regardless of which side your head is on. You won't blow anyone's knees out. BJJ folk are my folk, and as a BJJ guy I wish the rest of us would stop being such pussies.
     
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    jack36767 Brown Belt

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    Any bjj person whining about it is just mad that if you are finishing the ideal way that they have to pick between you finishing or risking their knee, basically... they're being a pussy that wants you to handicap yourself
     
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  3. yetanother

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    I get hurt by the Sakuraba headbut the knee style singles almost every time they succeed.
     
  4. yetanother

    yetanother Purple Belt

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    In the correct finish isn't risking your knee something you would have to do intentionally in an focused effort to hurt yourself. Falling over when your knee buckles seems super instinctual?
     
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  5. jack36767

    jack36767 Brown Belt

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    Not sure what you are asking?
     
  6. yetanother

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    Screwed up the grammar in that post.
    It seems to me like you would have to actually try hard to hurt yourself in a John Smith low single as falling over is natural.
     
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    jack36767 Brown Belt

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    If you are especially stubborn you can risk your knee by fighting it
     
  8. EatMyShorts

    EatMyShorts Green Belt

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    I got hurt the first time a wrestler pulled a low single on me - mainly cause, I didn't know what he was doing.

    It has since become my favourite takedown, especially in BJJ, cause you don't have to lock up to get it.
     
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    same.
     
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  10. MaxMMA

    MaxMMA Green Belt

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    Low single is legit, been hitting that mofo forever. Not sure why anyone would consider it a dick move.

    Also everyone always says how dangerous it is but I've never injured anyone with it, nor have I personally seen anyone hurt with it.

    You're supposed to drive your shoulder into their shin right below the knee, not directly into the knee.
     
  11. EatMyShorts

    EatMyShorts Green Belt

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    I couldn't pull off a low single for ages cause of mal-technique.

    I find, as oppose to using shoulder to drive forward, you use the side of your head into the in the inside of their leg, at the lower portion near the ankle, or some do it nearer or on the knee - that's a proper low single.

    This shoulder forward, weird knee bar type low single - is not particularly effective.
     
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    Are you sure you are supposed to drive your shoulder into something?
     
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  13. MaxMMA

    MaxMMA Green Belt

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    Yes, this is another variation of the low single, different angle of attack. Shoulder on shin is straight through.
    Again, just another variation of the same move. Not sure how you're messing up the other variation, you literally just cup the heel, drive forward and they fall.
     
  14. TheMood

    TheMood Blue Belt

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    The first time I had one done to me and I didn't know what was going on. I just feel backwards when it happened. I think it is fine and not a dick move. I would much rather someone goes for a low single than jumps guard on me.
     
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    Kyuktooki Blue Belt

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    Been hurt by it, but don't consider it a dick move.
     
  16. nefti

    nefti Red Belt

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    I have been using it for almost 10 years and have never hurt anyone. It is especially useful in no gi butterfly.
     
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    Depend on what happens after impact, the knee can still undergo varus/valgus stress.
     
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    nefti Red Belt

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    Any takedown can hurt your partner if they defend it wrong. However,It does not make it a dick move ".
     
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    Gabicho Brown Belt

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    I think the only way to get hurt from this is if:
    a) A lot of people who don't know the takedown seem to think it's a good idea to defend by straightening and stretching their knee/leg. As if "going tall" and stiffboarding will make you stay standing. It doesn't work. What only changes is that you'll get taken down AFTER your knee is put to the test.
    b) Someone like Mark Kerr is bulldozing you with a low single.
     
  20. Invisible Jiu Jitsu

    Invisible Jiu Jitsu Orange Belt

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    no. not at all
     

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