Then why did you include the surrounding Arab countries in your statement below. You mention all the Arabs in the conflict so why can't I? "Your own figures show it was disproportional with the Israelis killing 2-3x as many Arabs. Discounting the troops of the Arab armies and the Israelis you have 2,400 civilians killed on the Israeli side and 8,000 to 16,000 civilians killed on the Arab side. So no, I wouldn't agree it was proportional. Then you add in the campaign of terror and displacement by the Israelis and we can see how disproportionate the affair was in general." Oh so now you don't want to get into it... LOL ok dodge noted. You should question their Arab brethren as well and not just Israel on that topic, they had a huge influence in the Palestinian's not having their own state.