International Arab-Israeli Conflict, v3: Israel approves new permanent US embassy site in West Jerusalem

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U.S. cuts funds for UN after ‘null and void’ vote
Kimberly Atkins | December 26, 2017

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WASHINGTON — The United States has slashed the two-year budget for the United Nations by $285 million, delivering on a promise to cut spending on the agency after the U.N. Security Council overwhelmingly denounced President Trump’s decision to move the country’s embassy in Israel.

U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley hailed the decision to negotiate a reduction to the overall 2018-2019 budget as one of “a host of successes” by the U.S.

“(W)e reduced the UN’s bloated management and support functions, bolstered support for key U.S. priorities throughout the world, and instilled more discipline and accountability throughout the UN system,” Haley said in a statement. “We will no longer let the generosity of the American people be taken advantage of or remain unchecked.”

Ahead of last week’s U.N. General Assembly vote to declare the U.S. decision to move its embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem “null and void,” Haley warned in a tweet that “the U.S. will be taking names.”

After the assembly voted 128-9 Thursday to denounce President Trump’s decision to move the embassy and declare Jerusalem Israel’s capital, Haley and other U.S. officials promised to revisit the U.S.’s role in the organization, including the size of its financial contributions.

“America will put our embassy in Jerusalem. No vote in the United Nations will make any difference on that,” Haley said. “But this vote will make a difference on how Americans look at the U.N., and on how we look at countries who disrespect us in the U.N.”

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) tweeted after the vote: “Given its tendency to be forum for anti-Semitism & anti-Americanism, reevaluation of US role as single largest donor to #UN is long overdue.”

Earlier this year, Rubio introduced legislation to withhold U.S. funding to the U.N. and all affiliated agencies until they stopped what Rubio called “systemic bias and targeting of the Jewish state of Israel.”

President Trump also threatened to withhold “billions” in funding from the U.N. member countries that voted in favor of denouncing the U.S.’s embassy relocation.

“We’ll save a lot. We don’t care,” Trump said before a Cabinet meeting at the White House last week. “This isn’t like it used to be where they could vote against you and then you pay them hundreds of millions of dollars. We’re not going to be taken advantage of any longer.”

Haley’s statement didn’t specify how much of the reduction would come as a result in the reduction of U.S. contributions. According to PolitiFact, about 22 percent of the U.N.’s funding, or roughly $3.3 billion, comes from the U.S.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/in...us_cuts_funds_for_un_after_null_and_void_vote
 
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Nikki Haley delivered that speech wonderfully. 285 is a start, it would be nice to see them slash a little more.
 
What parts are they cutting?

Im guessing that the UN wont survive long, which is sad, because i liked some things of what it achieved in places like Guatemala.

The middle east is a cancer that killed that institution.
 
LOL let the world burn! baby!

God damn 285 million?? I just read out of 3.3 billion that still a lot but not a ton. US gives 3.3 billion dang!
 
This is awesome.

If I had a bunch of ginger kids and they tried talking shit on me, their fucking Daddy, you best believe those freaky fuckers are not getting anymore allowance until they behave like proper children and not half-CHUDS

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Use this as an excuse to get rid of that whole lot of freeloading shit stains.

Relocate to the UN to Sweden. I hear it's a paradise.
 
lfd0311 said:
So is condencing the 600 years between Abu Yusuf and the start of the Ottoman Empire into a single sentence as if not much changed in that time. Islam spread the way it did specifically because of forced conversions and harsh enforcement of jizyah. You have to take into account that there are two sides to everything. Theory and practice.
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Sure, its fair to point out the distance between Abu Yusu and the Ottoman Empire but at the same time he was a very influential figure in the Hanafi school that the Ottomans did privilege so he gives us an insight into the fundamental theory of the school. In theory it wasn't something that existed for the purpose of forced conversion and indeed in practice the pre-modern Islamic record for tolerance for religious minorities is generally better.

Forced conversions were the exception, not the norm. Jizyah could be used that way and has recently by ISIS but most often it wasn't. Islam spread its domains by the sword but that doesn't mean they were using forced conversion as a standard practice. The conversion happened gradually as a result of the religion's hegemonic status established by conquest.
 
Rod1 said:
What parts are they cutting?

Im guessing that the UN wont survive long, which is sad, because i liked some things of what it achieved in places like Guatemala.

The middle east is a cancer that killed that institution.
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Just because every single one of them voted for antiblasphemy laws doesn’t mean they are goddamn garbage
 




 
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Kafir-kun said:
Sure, its fair to point out the distance between Abu Yusu and the Ottoman Empire but at the same time he was a very influential figure in the Hanafi school that the Ottomans did privilege so he gives us an insight into the fundamental theory of the school. In theory it wasn't something that existed for the purpose of forced conversion and indeed in practice the pre-modern Islamic record for tolerance for religious minorities is generally better.

Forced conversions were the exception, not the norm. Jizyah could be used that way and has recently by ISIS but most often it wasn't. Islam spread its domains by the sword but that doesn't mean they were using forced conversion as a standard practice. The conversion happened gradually as a result of the religion's hegemonic status established by conquest.
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1.) There is obviously always two sides to everything, there is the way things are done in theory, and the way things are done in practice, and obviously practice changes from Sultan to Sultan. Obviously Islam in the Middle Ages was at face value more tolerant than Christianity, but it wasn't out of benevolence.

I'm obviously not doing a good enough job of explaining my poisition. I'm not trying to say it is an immediate forced conversion, but it is a forced conversion none the less, and Jizyah is a key instrument of that. The tax is increased over time until the people subjected to the tax have no chance of paying the tax and are faced with the choice of either converting to Islam or facing the penalty of refusing to pay Jizyah. There is normally only one real option at that point.
 
cincymma79 said:
You said muslim countries ruined the un. I said they all voted for antiblaspemy laws and that makes them garbage by default.
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Not muslims, the middle east in general.

Shit like the Iraq war, Iran sanctions, Israel, Human Rights commission, and virtually everything involving the middle east has turned the UN into shit due to clashes with America.

Elsewhere the UN seems to be doing a good job.
 
Leader of the UN Human Rights commission is Saudi Arabia...

Saudi Arabia is head of the UN Human Rights commission........

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UN is a goddamn joke.
 
The UN has always been a money grab. It's obsession with Israel is absurd, unheathly and provocatively bigoted.

For all his flaws Trump has the balls to call a spade a spade. The US doesn't need the UN the UN needs the US. Let it fall. Time for a new era. The failed project is a money pit of bureaucracy
 
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