Arab-Israeli Conflict: Part 1

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WTF2008 said:
I still can't figure out how or why. Trump won't change it, and no other politician would either.
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Trump ambassador to Israel is a real asshole. He will be very different than Obama administration.

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Thepaintbucket said:
Why isn't the United States on that list? Oh right, cause they still need shit from us. The French and British has also notoriously helped them in the past. Bad move by them.

And why is Egypt voting against them? We pay those guys billions to play nice with Israel. What a waste of money on our part.
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You pay them to keep peace and recognize Israel as a country. But they probably receive more money from other arabs.
 
Fucking Netanyahu.... What a piece of work.

This guy made the case for Iraq having WMDs, then, against his own intelligence agency, goes to the U.N. and lies through the skin of his teeth to try to get us to bomb Iran with the same WMD HOAX.

There is no limit to this warmonger; he will gladly dance on the graves of American soldiers or wasted american dollars on unnecessary wars if it benefits him. Then the far right fools have the gall to invite this guy to stand on his soapbox in an effort to undermine the President of the United States, knowing it will score political points since the Israeli-Palestine conflict has the most biased coverage in all probability than any western nation. And anything short of rusty-tromboning this wannabe war criminal is viewed as treasonous amongst the sheeple.

Now the guy, who takes billions and billions from the U.S. tax payer, is pretending this non-veto threatens Israel security... like not building more illegal settlements is opening the gates of hell. Sarkozy was right, this guy is beyond full of shit. And people have the gall to call Obama a traitor when they will try to let this foreign jerk dictate American foreign policy to HIS benefit.

Trump in the debates seemed more reasonable than rat face Cruz on the Israel-Palestine issue, but given now Obama has offended Trump by stating he could have won a third term against Dolan (or Shillary for that matter - two people who people view their toilet bowl more favorable to), he might go off the rails stupid and start tromboning him.
 
Decent article.

Link Source : https://www.raptureready.com/soap2/ward77.html

Full Article (warning tl;dr below)

"Friday 23rd December, 2016, will go down in history as a day of infamy for the United States. America, under the leadership of Barack Obama, have finally, and irrevocably, betrayed Israel. Choosing to abstain from a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning Israel, which declares all settlements outside the 1967 borders as illegal, Obama has effectively offered up Israel on a plate to her enemies at the United Nations.

How cruel, how tyrannical, that this lame duck president chooses to use his few remaining days in office to curse Israel. In defiance of all diplomatic protocol, Obama is hoping to present Donald Trump with a fait accompli when he assumes office in late January. At this point, there is nothing President Trump can do to aid Israel. The damage is already done.

Yet the betrayal goes deeper than merely a vote to abstain. Much deeper. The original motion of condemnation against Israeli “settlements” was tabled by Egypt, who quickly withdrew it due to pressure from president-elect Trump.

However, Obama and his team worked to out flank Trump. Obama went instead to New Zealand and Malaysia, getting them to table the motion in Egypt’s stead. Trump was powerless to stop it.

The motion of condemnation was then tabled, the United States abstained, and the remaining UN Security Council members, sensing blood, pounced on Israel.

Israel are now completely isolated, they are legally exposed and have been wholly condemned by all the world. All of this to Obama’s eternal shame.

Amongst other things this vote now means that the Wailing Wall, currently the most holy site in modern Judaism, this morning stands firmly on Palestinian land. The Temple Mount has been ripped from Israel’s grasp and has been given to Islam.

It means that Jews living in Jewish East Jerusalem can now no longer build any homes and occupy their own ancient capital city. It means that Obama, and America because he leads them, have effectively divided the land God gave to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The so called “peace process” is now dead. This vote has ensured the failure of all potential future negotiations. This vote means that the Palestinians will now demand all settlements as their legal land, and that will be the starting point for all their negotiations. All future negotiations for peace will now begin with the understanding that the 1967 lines are the starting point, not the end point.

Before this vote, the best the Palestinians could have hoped for would have been an Israeli retreat to the 1967 borders.

Israel will now be expected, by the international community, to retreat back to the 1948 lines, not the 1967 borders. In international diplomacy, and Obama knows this well, this 1948 line is known by another term; it is known as the Auschwitz line. Any retreat behind this Auschwitz line is militarily indefensible.

Obama, in allowing this vote to progress without a U.S. veto, has knowingly endangered the continued existence of Israel itself as a viable state. He no doubt hopes that one day soon Israel will be forced to retreat behind a border that will not allow for the adequate protection of the Jewish State.

Obama has actively sought to bring about the conditions necessary for Israel’s final destruction.

Barack Obama has cursed Israel. He hasn’t simply abstained from a UN vote; he is actively attempting to seal Israel's future doom.

God is clear. Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, whoever curses Israel will be cursed. America, under Barack Obama’s leadership have now, for the very first time actively cursed Israel. A red line has been crossed.

In my opinion, all we can now do is wait for the judgment that will now fall. It will fall on Barack Obama personally, and terrifyingly, on the United States corporately because he leads them, and there is nothing that Donald Trump can do to stop it."

Almost time folks, almost time...
 
Israel betrayed Obama when Netanyahu came and spoke to our congress to undermine our nuclear deal with Iran.
 
Well if Rapture Ready condemns this move, can anyone honestly mount an argument for it?
 
I'm not taking Obama's side, but Obama was pissed at Israel for fucking with the Stuxnet code. Had Israel left the code alone, instead of making the virus more aggressive, it most likely would still be working. Instead, Israel made the virus more aggressive, then the Iranians found it and the gig was up. That forced us to make a shitty deal with Iran.
 
This situation is going to spiral out of control imo. It's only going to embolden the jihadists and other people who were on the fence about Israel to condemn them. The Israelis are not going back to pre 1967 borders without a nasty fight.
 
Lol @ 'betrayal'.

Good, they can stop accepting our welfare if they're so offended. With friends like these, who needs enemies?
 
Quoting myself from another thread

JDragon said:
All this hyperventilation. Gross

Netanyahu to New Zealand: That's an act of war

Says the guy whose country operated a spy ring in New Zealand and used fake NZ passports for its agents...

I say all sides need to chill the fuck out, Netanyahu should accept the humbling and take a minute or two to consider why it happened before he builds even more settlements. IMO Netanyahu is screaming so loudly because he's got some major issues at home.
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I will cut and paste my thoughts from the other thread:

Fucking Netanyahu.... What a piece of work.

This guy made the case for Iraq having WMDs, then, against his own intelligence agency, goes to the U.N. and lies through the skin of his teeth to try to get us to bomb Iran with the same WMD HOAX.

There is no limit to this warmonger; he will gladly dance on the graves of American soldiers or wasted american dollars on unnecessary wars if it benefits him. Then the far right fools have the gall to invite this guy to stand on his soapbox in an effort to undermine the President of the United States, knowing it will score political points since the Israeli-Palestine conflict has the most biased coverage in all probability than any western nation. And anything short of rusty-tromboning this wannabe war criminal is viewed as treasonous amongst the sheeple.

Now the guy, who takes billions and billions from the U.S. tax payer, is pretending this non-veto threatens Israel security... like not building more illegal settlements is opening the gates of hell. Sarkozy was right, this guy is beyond full of shit. And people have the gall to call Obama a traitor when they will try to let this foreign jerk dictate American foreign policy to HIS benefit.

Trump in the debates seemed more reasonable than rat face Cruz on the Israel-Palestine issue, but given now Obama has offended Trump by stating he could have won a third term against Dolan (or Shillary for that matter - two people who people view their toilet bowl more favorable to), he might go off the rails stupid and start tromboning him.
 
Obama is giving the Jews 3bil for next ten years. No betrayal here.

A betrayal is giving the Iranians a nuke to give to Hezbollah. Or refusing to take in any new jews if Israel go boom.
 
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