Anyone else feel like the tensions between the US and Russia-Iran has risen

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There is tensions from time to time and everything settles back to normal but something is way different this time.

Israel feels very uneasy with Iran, Hezbollah, Russia and Assad the who is who of Axis evil having adresse right next to them and breathing down their neck. Israel actully carried out a sneaky air attack from Lebanon on Hezbollah Bus close to the Lebanese border yesterday.

The US and Iran have been thrash talking with threats back and forth. Israel is feeling more uneasy now then ever due to Iran mostly and the same goes to Saudi Arabia they feel very unsafe.

Russian-American tension: Russia took it personal when Trump said return back Crimea and east Ukraine. The ceasefire in Ukraine has been violated since.

But what pissed Russia off most is the US and Nato actully sending upto 4000 soldiers into the Baltic countries with a Video campaign saying directly we are ready to fight if the Russian come. Russia saw this as an attack on it's borders and security.

What is next? I predict a surprise battle happening all of sudden and most of us won't even see it coming. Small details can kick it off
 
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In conventional war terms.neither russia or iran is a rival anymore ..not even in the same weight class
They will bitch and moan and do fookin nuthin!

Theres a great foriegn policy article about how obama being reasonable all the time has allowed these shitstains (il add n korea and china in there too) to feel they can threaten war with every little thing and how the best thing to do now is call that bluff.
Once they back down and stop pretending they will go from 1 to 10 in a heartbeat over issues then theyl be more reasonable (stuff like chinas insane sea claims or kims 'feed us ' demands)
 
There is tensions from time to time and everything settles back to normal but something is way different this time.

Israel feels very uneasy with Iran, Hezbollah, Russia and Assad the who is who of Axis evil having adresse right next to them and breathing down their neck. Israel actully carried out a sneaky air attack from Lebanon on Hezbollah Bus close to the Lebanese border yesterday.

The US and Iran have been thrash talking with threats back and forth. Israel is feeling more uneasy now then ever due to Iran mostly and the same goes to Saudi Arabia they feel very unsafe.

Russian-American tension: Russia took it personal when Trump said return back Crimea and east Ukraine. The ceasefire in Ukraine has been violated since.

But what pissed Russia off most is the US and Nato actully sending upto 4000 soldiers into the Baltic countries with a Video campaign saying directly we are ready to fight if the Russian come. Russia saw this as an attack on it's borders and security.

What is next? I predict a surprise battle happening all of sudden and most of us won't even see it coming. Small details can kick it off

No. All that has changed is the way the awful Liberal Media reports it. When Obama was running the show and we were very close to war with Russia it was hardly talked about. Now that Trump is the President that same sect of the Media can't shut up about our relationship with Russia.
 
In conventional war terms.neither russia or iran is a rival anymore ..not even in the same weight class
They will bitch and moan and do fookin nuthin!

Theres a great foriegn policy article about how obama being reasonable all the time has allowed these shitstains (il add n korea and china in there too) to feel they can threaten war with every little thing and how the best thing to do now is call that bluff.
Once they back down and stop pretending they will go from 1 to 10 in a heartbeat over issues then theyl be more reasonable (stuff like chinas insane sea claims or kims 'feed us ' demands)

One of the largest countries in the world isn't our rival in terms of military strength anymore? OK......
 
No. All that has changed is the way the awful Liberal Media reports it. When Obama was running the show and we were very close to war with Russia it was hardly talked about. Now that Trump is the President that same sect of the Media can't shut up about our relationship with Russia.

how were we close to war with russia under obama?

if anything, id say the partisan liberal media acts as if trump is too cosy with the russians.
 
One of the largest countries in the world isn't our rival in terms of military strength anymore? OK......

no. theyre definitely not. theyre not even a shadow of their former selves.
 
There will never be a war between major powers again. The 60 years of peace between major powers since WWII hasn't been an accident. It's the Pax Hiroshima.

The greatest threat to security and human life is a terrorist group getting its hands on a nuclear bomb.
 
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how were we close to war with russia under obama?

if anything, id say the partisan liberal media acts as if trump is too cosy with the russians.

We had troops operating in the same battle space at the same time with their troops actively attacking groups who were trained by our Special Forces who were on the ground at the same time. That's about as close as you can get to open warfare without actually shooting at each other, and who knows what our clandestine forces were doing.

no. theyre definitely not. theyre not even a shadow of their former selves.

Not being a shadow of their former selves and still having a much larger military than ours are not the same thing. You can be both at the same time, and they are.
 
Some people are such morons, when it comes to the Russia topic, it's mostly democrats, sjw's and Hillary voters.

Under Obama, you had the UTTER FUCKUPS of Syria, Libya, Ukrainian overthrow, Crimean invasion, all of which brought the US and Russia to direct and indirect conflict.

For fucks sake, you had Russian and US destroyers a literal mile apart at some points in the Mediterranean, with Russia's Ministry of Defense telling the US that they would shoot down any missiles fired. This is a direct conflict between two nuclear superpowers. (Many people believe that the missiles fired from the US ship actually were shot down by Russian assets but it was quickly fizzled out in the media with a story about Israeli military tests)

How quickly people forget that Hillary was advocating for a no fly zone over Syria to shoot down any Russian jets bombing her favourite "rebels".

That's the type of shit that leads to WW3.
 
We had troops operating in the same battle space at the same time with their troops actively attacking groups who were trained by our Special Forces who were on the ground at the same time. That's about as close as you can get to open warfare without actually shooting at each other, and who knows what our clandestine forces were doing.

it would take one of these guys (putin/obama) to be truly insane, to start a nuclear war over this. even if we'd accidentally, or even intentionally, killed some of the other's troops.

Not being a shadow of their former selves and still having a much larger military than ours are not the same thing. You can be both at the same time, and they are.

the only reason theyre a threat is because of their nukes, which they wont use under their current....."president."

they have little ability to actually project their power onto any 1st world country. they have numbers, but they cant send them anywhere that matters.
 
There will never be a war between major powers again.

i wouldnt say that. there will be.

but it will take a truly insane leader to get that started. no one wins anymore when the major powers fight. but it will take an idiot to not see that. one will come along eventually.
 
it would take one of these guys (putin/obama) to be truly insane, to start a nuclear war over this. even if we'd accidentally, or even intentionally, killed some of the other's troops.



the only reason theyre a threat is because of their nukes, which they wont use under their current....."president."

they have little ability to actually project their power onto any 1st world country. they have numbers, but they cant send them anywhere that matters.

Why does everyone immediately jump to nukes? Nobody is going to use nukes. Nobody that doesnt wish to destroy the earth.

What is someplace that "matters" to you?
 
Why does everyone immediately jump to nukes? Nobody is going to use nukes. Nobody that doesnt wish to destroy the earth.

you think nuclear powers would directly fight each other without using nukes? what would that be like? a gentleman's agreement?

What is someplace that "matters" to you?

"matters" from a military standpoint. first world countries.
 
We will all be at work/shitposting in mom's basement and we will feel the Earth tremble, then for a mere fraction of a second we will see a white light and feel an intense heat. After that, we will be but a sillouhette on the wall... our existence extinguished unexpectedly.
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Globalists puppet masters have been pushing for a conflict with Russia n Iran for some time now. It's pretty obvious USA president doesn't have much say n is being told behind the scenes what to do (trump changing his stance once he got elected)

Here however globalists might bit more they can chew.

Just like Napoleon n nazis before have learned Conflict with Russia would lead to American annihilation.
 
One of the largest countries in the world isn't our rival in terms of military strength anymore? OK......
It isnt ...tech gaps mean itd be one sided as feck
Russia despite spendimg billions has only modernized a small portion of its forces and lot of that is engaged in 2 conflicts right now.
 
Globalists puppet masters have been pushing for a conflict with Russia n Iran for some time now. It's pretty obvious USA president doesn't have much say n is being told behind the scenes what to do (trump changing his stance once he got elected)

Here however globalists might bit more they can chew.

Just like Napoleon n nazis before have learned Conflict with Russia would lead to American annihilation.
To be fair the germans had to make a lot of mistakes to prevent them winning in the east
 
you think nuclear powers would directly fight each other without using nukes? what would that be like? a gentleman's agreement?

Do you remember MAD? That didn't go away. A war isn't going to automatically go nuclear just because. You start lobbing modern nukes at each other and it ends the world. That's sort of it's own gentleman's agreement, wouldn't you say? Russia dropping a Nuke on the US would affect the US and vice versa.



"matters" from a military standpoint. first world countries.

Do you mean like having the largest tank army in the world and just rolling out a brand new fleet of modern main battle tanks and fighter jets within the last year? Russia isn't some third world country in the Middle East. It's still Russia.
 
It isnt ...tech gaps mean itd be one sided as feck
Russia despite spendimg billions has only modernized a small portion of its forces and lot of that is engaged in 2 conflicts right now.

You must not pay attention to modern conflicts. The Israelis have Modern American tanks and when they invaded Lebanon 10 years ago they were getting blown up then with outdated Russian technology. What do you think the anti tank missiles and anti tank projectiles the for the RPGs they've developed in the last 10 years specifically designed to target and destroy Western style armor can do?
 
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