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  1. unimackpass Purple Belt

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    Now that makes a "Hell of a lot of sense." I believe conservativism has bin developed over time as what works best over for both individuals and society, not some utopian theory imposed inorganicly from a elitist think tank. I saw my single parent mom work her ass off to be independently wealthy while young male crybabies we're hanging out in bars on food stamps claiming the world wasn't fair. If they had their way "greedy" hard working people like her wold of bin taxed so steeply that she never would have bin able to do what she did. Ya, always bin a conservative.
     
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    The speech that changed America forever.


     
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  3. 7437 Gold Belt

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    I used to be a conservative. Technically im still part of the republican party. If they would nominate someone who isnt a total piece of shit I might even vote for them. But that doesnt seem likely.
     
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    Yeah I went from Horse to Crane
     
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    I went from Horse to Whores.
     
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    I voted for Kerry and Obama.

    The left lost me when it was hijacked by far left wackos, and when I started to man up in life and stopped being a weak, blue pill nu-male.

    Voted Trump, no going back.
     
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    Not only have I gone from liberal minded (while I was in school) to libertarian minded (as a Border Patrol Agent) to conservative minded (after being regularly called a racist by the left), forums such as these are part of the reason I went from Christian to Atheist.

    You're never going to convince someone that they're wrong. BUT you can introduce facts and viewpoints someone might not have ever heard before (because they live in an ideological bubble) which may eventually cause a change of belief. But it will never happen on the spot.

    At the end of the day, our minds will not be changed by others. We always make up our own mind. But without debating others, we generally will not consider alternate viewpoints.

    People from these forums introduced me to Ben Shapiro, who is now my favorite political commentator and has shaped some of my beliefs.
     
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    Like who? <21>
     
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  9. mr.bigglesworth Red Belt

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    I've gone from right-libertarian to left-libertarian since signing up here.

    Same liberal social views, changed fiscal views.
     
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  10. carlos cadona Opinions subject to change

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    I was a hardcore libertarian socialist anarchist back in 2013 when I joined, I was in favor of abolishing the state and what not. I still support libertarian socialist movements but I'm not personally one anymore. I'm far more authoritarian now and I see the need for state institutions as a safe guard.
     
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  11. mr.bigglesworth Red Belt

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    Stopped at this ridiculous oxymoron LOL
     
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  12. Pwent WOW!

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    i have changed my stance on specific issues but not my core ideology

    my core ideology is a nationalist libertarian/classical liberal

    i think the USA should be ruthlessly "America First" in its foreign policy

    i believe in a small government that allows people to do whatever they want, as long as they arent infringing on others. i think the government is too inefficient and easily corrupted to control many aspects of our lives and shouldnt be responsible for our welfare/morals etc.

    at times, i feel fascism is enticing. simply because i see how fucking stupid and easily misled people are. i will wish that the government stops cultural marxists from brainwashing an entire generation to destroy themselves and stops people from self destructive behavior.... but then i know that power will 100% be guaranteed to eventually become abused, which will be far more disastrous than anything it will prevent in the short term
     
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  13. Pwent WOW!

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    people are probably going to think that im closed minded or stubborn, because ive never changed my core ideology.

    i just feel that ive always been well informed. im blessed to have an awesome dad who explained how things work to me from a young age. in high school, I took AP econ, and the first day they gave us the previous year's AP test so that we could fail it, and then at the end of the year, be proud of how much we learned. however, i ended up getting a 96% on the AP test, just from my dad talking about economics in the car, driving to and from school, or whatever.

    so i never had a "went to college and discovered x idea that fundamentally changed my beliefs" moment
     
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  14. nostradumbass Silver Belt

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    Never was a weed guy or a videogame guy, but I was a TYT subscriber, and even thought socialism was a good idea until I said it out loud and was pretty quickly put in my place by my Hungarian friends. I was poor as shit right after college and even lived next to a crack dealer, and never once considered taking the food stamps that I probably qualified for. Used to work seasonal jobs then just live in France and Morocco until my money ran out, but since I met my fiance, I quit my seasonal jobs and started my own thing and doing pretty well. Whether it's quitting weed or starting a family, any motivation at all makes it pretty easy to do well. Business is actually not that complicated, and I don't think there are many people who give their full effort for a long time who don't wind up successful in some sense of the word.
     
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  15. Daverisimo Unwashed Vagrant

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    I used to be a borderline anarchocapitalist. I was completely anti nationalism, pro free trade, anti government, and way the fuck to the left on social issues. I went through a bit of an Ayn Rand phase in high school, though I'm a bit ashamed to admit it now. Since then, I've moved quite a bit left on economics (I wouldn't consider myself far left by European standards, but I probably about as far left as it gets on the Morton window in the states. I'm a social Democrat more than anything else really), and I've also moved to the right (relative to where I was. I'm pretty centrist for the most part) on social/cultural issues. I'm still not anti immigration, but I am absolutely an assimilationist. Even though I don't think (insert "ism" here) I despise SJWs. I'm fairly pro nationalism, as long as it doesn't get racist (I consider myself a civic nationalist).
     
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    All the time.

    Haven't ever considered myself part of the left wing or right wing but have changed views on topics to numerous to mention.
     
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  17. nostradumbass Silver Belt

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    More specifically, was it any arguments in the war room, or just generally life experience?
     
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  18. HIMBOB Steel Belt

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    Getting more information on the sheer number of black market guns in America made me write off the idea of disarming.
    Instead I now support registration and severe penalties for non compliance.
     
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  19. nostradumbass Silver Belt

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    Not sure that should have been your reason for not wanting to disarm, but I get what you're saying. I think more information would change a lot of people's minds on a lot of shit, rather than picking off low hanging fruit and writing off the whole idea just because some dummy holds the opinion.
     
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