Any word on how DC is feeling/responding to the Jon Jones drug failure?

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    DC is a douche and I throughly enjoyed watching him lose, but I don't like it at all that he lost to dude who was using PEDs. Jones robbed DC, and all of us, of a result based on an equal and fair playing field. So now we're left with a great fighter whose record has been forever tarnished by an opponent who cheated. Even with the asterix * beside his losses it won't change the belief of many mma fans.

    For those who refuse to acknowledge the advantage PEDs give an athlete need to do some research. It is beyond significant.

    I think back to DC crying while fuckhead Rogan shoved a mic in his face and it bothers me.
     
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    Why on earth would this thread be wastlanded?

    Am I alone in wondering how DC might be responding to this?

    Lol..fucking mods.

    Go bump another "Conor rides a boat" thread.
     
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    DC would have lost had Jones been clean or dirty.
     
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    I'd like to think so...

    But I guess we'll never know.

    But hey man...Conor had lunch on a boat!
     
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    Pure speculation.
    Why would he need to cheat then? Just for the lolz?
     
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    How do you know?

    Do you have any experience fighting or even training on steroids? Or fighting or training, coming off of steroids? Or any other PED's?

    I think, looking at his performances in the past, it's pretty safe bet that the OSP fight was his first and last clean fight.
     
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    Without steroids Jon looks like the average non american sherdog user, the american sherdog users are all heavyweights
     
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    Seriously though, we need more details about this boat
     
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    Do you?

    Go look at all of the fighters busted for PED's. It's about a 50% win percentage for PED users that are caught if you go back far enough.
     
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    Because he wanted to power lift.
     
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    Yes, I do have some experience with it. Not much, but enough to remember the increase in strength and speed it gave me and how much harder you can train because you recover faster.

    This makes you mentally much stronger and once you stop, it takes a lot of your confidence when coming off of a cycle. You feel you've lost a lot of strength and aggression, so mentally you have a lot to overcome. That is why it is very addictive. Once you've used it, it is very hard to step down to the old you and feel confident.

    That's why I'm not so sure Jones would have beaten him clean. I do believe he has the talent for it, but it is hard to say he could also put in the work needed to become this good without juicing all these years.
     
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    I'm sure Jon would beat him clean because it's technique that won pretty much all of Jon's fights.
     
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    Yes, I know those numbers, but they don't mean too much in this argument.

    Because if you just look at winning or losing, you still compare the performance of the two fighters in the contest (fighter A v.s. fighter B). You are not comparing the performance of the same fighter with or without PED's (fighter A on juice v.s. fighter A without juice).
     
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    Where are the results of the performance of the same fighters with or without PED's then?

    You can't provide those because they are theoretical but as far as FACTS and what we have seen recorded. PED users are 50% in the cage so they MAY be giving the fighters an advantage but the also MAY be giving fighters a disadvantage that people are not taking into account.
     
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    For some mysterious reason fighters do not record their performances in relation to their cycles in publicly accessible internet fora. Maybe a point for the moderator.

    Let me ask you this:
    Do you think fighters would risk suspension, risk losing their fight purse, risk losing their title, risk losing their reputation and risk severe complications to their health if it wouldn't improve their chances?
    Do you really believe you are the smart guy who has just now discovered that all these athletes that have been using all sorts of PED's were just believing some weird theory and it never helped them?

    Have you compared the performance of UFC fighters before and after USADA? I don't wanna mention names, but I'm sure you can find some statistics on it.
     
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