Another day, another broken promise. Cuts to Medicare & Medicaid

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  1. panamaican

    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    No. I don't. But I have to wait and see what the actual direction is going to look like. At this point, they haven't stated any specific ideas so I have nothing to be for or against.
     
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    If the plan resembles anything that Ryan would want large cuts are the primary goal. He'll use the term "reform" to hide that fact. Just like the current tax "reform" bill. I still chuckle at the postcard tax filing they showed.
     
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  3. cincymma79

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    Which part of he article says they’re cutting benefits to people? Which benefit are they cutting? What effect will the person receiving them see if they qualify? You don’t know. So your opinion is based on what exactly?
     
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    When it comes to what I think is really bad policy I always wonder if it really is ideology or these guys are throwing a bone to donors.

    That question does not apply to Ryan. He is an ideologue through and through, sleeps with his Ayn Rand books at his side and really believes in the shit he pushes.
     
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  5. panamaican

    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I have very little faith in Ryan's ability to reform anything. But until I see it, I can't pass judgment on it.
     
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    O it’s the worstest ever. The fact it says entitlements means They are taking it away form homeless veterans and giving it to the Koch brothers you asshole
     
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    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    When I say reform, I mean reform. I don't hate poor people because I'm not dumb enough to think that they're poor solely because they refuse to work hard enough to not be poor. Being a lawyer has been the most eye-opening education on this subject of the poor. The raw number of hard-working people who are poor but continue pushing and striving should motivate anyone to make sure that the opportunities to excel are there for those who want them.

    Too often the reality is that the opportunities and the tools aren't available to those who would use them and both parties play lip service to addressing the problem. Giving out pro bono legal services in the business community make that abundantly clear. The amount of people trying to start businesses but don't know the first thing about finance or legal protections or even negotiating a lease is quite high.
     
  8. Strychnine

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    It seems that Mississippi and Alabama decided to stand pat economically.
     
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    "When they said they were going to kill birds for food, we didn't think they meant us!"
     
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    Absolutely not. Military needs to be cut as well
     
  11. HatchetHarry

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    People on Medicaid are generally not too sick to work.
     
  12. cincymma79

    cincymma79 Silver Belt

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    I worked in an er/icu for 16 years. I’m painfully aware. If you mention any changes to these programs these ding dongs just say you have poor people. Buy computers to make working faster and more accurate so you don’t fill a few clerk jobs and that lowers the budget? Hate poor people. It’s tiresome
     
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    Which part of the article describes what reforms would actually happen that wouldn't negatively impact people currently enrolled in these programs?
     
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    Yes, he even tried very hard to educate them...


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    So you admit you are basing your opinion on fucking nothing. Progress
     
  16. Edison Carasio

    Edison Carasio Excellence of execution belt Platinum Member

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    So you base your opinion on a irrational dislike of poor people. MAGA
     
  17. cincymma79

    cincymma79 Silver Belt

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    Dodge noted
     
  18. Edison Carasio

    Edison Carasio Excellence of execution belt Platinum Member

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    Dodge? Nah. I'm more of a honda guy myself, although I do own a mopar (a 66 chrylser)

    You can keep defending you and your fellow "conservatives" irrational demonization of poor Americans and blaming social programs for our debt while you cheer lead tax breaks for the ultra wealthy, billion dollar subsidies and corporate welfare and bloated military spending.

    But oh, please keep blaming poor people as lazy moochers. Maybe one day you'll join the fat cats at the big boys table. That shitposting will pay off any day now.
     
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  19. MilesAbove

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    I, for one, look forward to our feudalist future.... because I'm pretty sure that means we can bring chivalry back.... and I'm pretty sure that means I can get a horse and a knights outfit.... and I'm pretty sure that means I get to be a knight.... and I'm pretty sure that's fucking cool.
     
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