Analyzing Median PPV Revenue and No. of Events (2005-2017)

[OnMcGregorNutz]

Thank you sir. It’s amazing what sherdog can teach you!! User for life right here

 

[Deleted member 490433]

It's not dying, but it is in trouble.

How so? Yes PPV numbers are down but they have bigger sponsors, network deals (National & abroad), 450,000+ subscribers on fight pass who pay $9.99 a month. That alone is $4.5M a month - $53.9M per year in gross revenue. They are doing beautiful.

 

[Finnish Fan]

How so? Yes PPV numbers are down but they have bigger sponsors, network deals (National & abroad), 450,000+ subscribers on fight pass who pay $9.99 a month. That alone is $4.5M a month - $53.9M per year in gross revenue. They are doing beautiful.

Lack of star power.

People stop going to the circus if the main attraction is midgets throwing pies on each others' faces.

 

[Sano]

2014 was such a shitty year

2014 was the worst year ever. People think these last two years have been bad, forget about it. I still have nightmares about how terrible 2014 was, it seems people have forgotten.

 

[Mammothman]

2014 was the worst year ever. People think these last two years have been bad, forget about it. I still have nightmares about how terrible 2014 was, it seems people have forgotten.

The only good things for me were TJ and Robbie winning the belts but god damn 2016 and 2017 were insanely better

 

[Deleted member 490433]

Lack of star power.

People stop going to the circus if the main attraction is midgets throwing pies on each others' faces.

Oh, ok.

 

[Sano]

The only good things for me were TJ and Robbie winning the belts but god damn 2016 and 2017 were insanely better

Injuries on injuries, events falling apart, very few good fights and cards, no buzz. 2012 was terrible in regards to injuries as well. Things has been a little slow lately, but hopefully it'll pick up again.

 

[Mammothman]

Injuries on injuries, events falling apart, very few good fights and cards, no buzz. 2012 was terrible in regards to injuries as well. Things has been a little slow lately, but hopefully it'll pick up again.

Did you like 2013? it was my first year watching UFC and I think it was great but I'm not sure if I'm bias towards it because was my first year watching UFC lol

 

[cmw43]

Where are you getting this revenue amount from?

 

[acannxr]

Source?

Also, I think you listing PPV revenue along side event totals that include more than just PPVs is misleading. You're trying to say that more events equates to less revenue per, which may be true, but no conclusion can be reached based on your limited data.

According to your data 2010 had the second highest median PPV revenue, yet it also had the most number of PPVs (16) but you don't show that. 2006 had 11 PPVs and 2016 had 13, yet they both had essentially the same median revenue. Neither of those support your claim.

What would be a more accurate and interesting study would be median total revenue (i.e. PPV, gate, advertisers, TV, etc.) per event. If you're going to include non-PPVs then include the revenue from those events to (and not just PPV revenue but all revenue from all event specific sources).

I'm showing how the increased number of events affected PPV revenue. I explicitly stated that I was analyzing PPV revenue and how it was affected by the number of events. Stop misconstruing my post for the sake of trying to win an argument that doesn't exist.

PPV revenue is the number one indicator of fan interest, and too many events decreases how stacked a PPV is, hence the correlation between too many events causing a decrease in median PPV revenue.

I don't mind arguing or discussing the topic that I presented, but I have no interest in discourse with someone who twists my words.

 

[acannxr]

Where are you getting this revenue amount from?

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/10...odys-and-standard-poors-tell-us-about-the-ufc

I used the trend of their average PPV cost to extrapolate the revenues for PPV post 2014; note that the PPV revenue is likely lower than my estimations due to the UFC often exaggerating their buyrates (i.e. They've never hit 1.6 million buys).

 

[beginner555]

Year | Median PPV Revenue | No. of Events

2005 | $02,082,410 | 10
2006 | $08,074,880 | 18
2007 | $08,569,000 | 19
2008 | $11,084,245 | 20
2009 | $11,268,250 | 20
2010 | $12,727,000 | 24
2011 | $08,304,188 | 27
2012 | $10,444,750 | 31
2013 | $10,032,000 | 33
2014 | $05,747,175 | 46
2015 | $15,498,000 | 41
2016 | $08,317,260 | 41
2017 | $06,844,950 | 39

The median revenue is more informative as to the overall health of the UFC's PPV income, as using average revenue could misrepresent everything due to outlier PPVs. Revenue is used as opposed to buyrates given the difference in PPV cost and split with cable provider.

Correlations: the UFC had better median PPV revenues when number of events ranged from 20-33; I consider 2015 an outlier given the median revenues of 2014, 2016, and 2017.

Interesting to note that the UFC had better median PPV revenues 10 years ago with half as many number of events.

Thanks usada

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Damn Conor really changed UFCs bum life.

My question is: will there ever be another duo as strong as Conor Ronda? It was like a perfect storm which led to the heist of the century; aka The Fertittas Con.


Crazy to think that they did 50% more than their best years with Nrocktober. AND, mind you, they had some real stinkers in here, like UFC 174.

 

[dertdent]

I calculated the average ppv numbers for the bottom 6 ppv's from 2010 to 2017.(based on numbers from mmapayout.com)
2010 351.7k
2011 270.8k
2012 250k
2013 260k
2014 159.6k
2015 245.8k
2016 252.8k
2017 147.8k

The hardcore base is steadily shrinking from 2010. It got a boost in 2015&16 from Conor and Ronda, but fell to it's lowest level since 2005 last year.

 

[acannxr]

My question is: will there ever be another duo as strong as Conor Ronda? It was like a perfect storm which led to the heist of the century; aka The Fertittas Con.


Crazy to think that they did 50% more than their best years with Nrocktober. AND, mind you, they had some real stinkers in here, like UFC 174.

I think it will take 2-3 years for a new PPV draw to emerge within the UFC, because presently there are too many fighters emulating McGregor and rarely does an audience want to see the same act twice. I predict the new star will be a polar opposite of McGregor, in terms of personality; of course I could be wrong.

I calculated the average ppv numbers for the bottom 6 ppv's from 2010 to 2017.(based on numbers from mmapayout.com)
2010 351.7k
2011 270.8k
2012 250k
2013 260k
2014 159.6k
2015 245.8k
2016 252.8k
2017 147.8k

The hardcore base is steadily shrinking from 2010. It got a boost in 2015&16 from Conor and Ronda, but fell to it's lowest level since 2005 last year.

Averaging the buyrates yields disingenuous results; median is where it's at .

 

[dertdent]

Averaging the buyrates yields disingenuous results; median is where it's at .

Median and average buyrates for the bottom 6 ppvs are pretty much the same values, because of the low variance.
For example
2017 average 147.8 median 150k
2016 average 252.8 median 265k
2014 average 159.6k median 182.5

 

[VulcanNervPinch]

It's weird how the numbers say that the sport was most popular right during the same period where longtime fans say the sport was most popular and a little before all the "UFC is dying" talk started.