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OK thanks. I'll give it a read now lolSorry I'm Dutch. I'll correct it.
I'm a dick
OK thanks. I'll give it a read now lolSorry I'm Dutch. I'll correct it.
I know about it. My solution is better and ultimately easier for everybody involved.
I have to admit... I didn't expect a legitimate reason for that...Sorry I'm Dutch. I'll correct it.
actually, i don't think your system of multiple random weigh-ins across many months is easier than hydration tests at weigh-in and fight time.I know about it. My solution is better and ultimately easier for everybody involved.
because USADA uses WADA and IV is not allowed.I'll tell you what TS. A for effort and trying SOMETHING.
What the UFC has in place since the I.V. ban (and USADA) is not working. Look at the disparity in people missing weight before and after. Its incredible.
Yes, people should not cheat. But it just crazy how often weight is missed and or people having major issues around their cuts.
Why can't they bring back the I.V.'s and have UFC approved docs and med staff administer the hydration so there is no funny business?
It is not across many months. Just within 4 weeks of the fight. And once the system is in place a fighter has to be in their weight class during those 4 weeks at all times. That is when USADA random PED tests. During fight week. During the weigh ins and at fight time. So weight cutting is litterally not possible anymore. It is clear for fighters, for the fans, for anyone involved.actually, i don't think your system of multiple random weigh-ins across many months is easier than hydration tests at weigh-in and fight time.
Impossible. You are not allowed to weigh over the limit within 4 weeks before the fight and there are random checks.
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This...
They have had damn few fight cancellations compared to the UFC (mind you they have a much smaller number of fights).
because USADA uses WADA and IV is not allowed.
can UFC hire USADA and ask them "we'd like to hire you to do 9/10th of what you do". maybe USADA will create different guidelines for different clients.
but my guess is they won't. and if my guess is correct, then dumping the IV ban means dumping USADA.
i was responding to someone who said IV's have ruined everything, and if they remove the ban, cats and dogs will get along, all lawyers will die, and rainbows of skittles for all.whats iv's got to do with anything?
iv's had no impact on weight cuts, and theres no evidence that oral rehydration is any less effective than iv
agreedI'll tell you what TS. A for effort and trying SOMETHING.
What the UFC has in place since the I.V. ban (and USADA) is not working. Look at the disparity in people missing weight before and after. Its incredible.
Yes, people should not cheat. But it just crazy how often weight is missed and or people having major issues around their cuts.
Why can't they bring back the I.V.'s and have UFC approved docs and med staff administer the hydration so there is no funny business?
i read somewhere that fighters like it (i thought it was an mmajunkie "how is it going after 2 years" analysis type article) but i cannot find that article right now.I don't follow ONE FC. assuming that you do, how well do you think it has worked?
Old system with weight cutting
FlW 125, BW 135, FW 145, LW 155, WW 170, MW 185, LHW 205, HW 265
New system without weight cutting
FlW 140, BW 150, FW 160, LW 170, WW 187, MW 205, LHW 225, HW 265
Phase 1. 6 months.
From 4 weeks before a fight fighters will be weighed at random times just to monitor their weight.
Pre fight day a weigh in as usual according the old system.
Just before fight time the fighter is weighed again and this weight will also be announced to the public.
Phase 2. 6 months
From 4 weeks before a fight fighters will be weighed at random times. Fighters are not allowed to weigh over the new weight limits and get monetary penalties for each pound over.
Pre fight day a weigh in as usual according the old system. Fighters still cut as usual.
Just before fight time the fighter is weighed again and this weight will also be announced to the public.
Phase 3. The new system is in place.
From 4 weeks before a fight fighters will be weighed at random times. Fighters are not allowed to weigh over the new weight limits and get monetary penalties for each pound over.
Pre fight day a weigh in based on the new weight limits. Fighters should be all comfortable at around their natural weight so no cutting of weight.
Just before fight time the fighter is weighed again and this weight will also be announced to the public.
In principle all fighters should be capable to remain in their original class. Perhaps the numbers for the new weight limits need to be tweeked. That can be done in fase 1.
So what would the transition to the new system look like for for instance Tyrone the WW champ.
In phase 1 he can choose to do everything as usual. The public however will know exactly what he weighs at fight time and how much he cut.
In phase 2 from 4 weeks before the fight he is not allowed to weigh over 187. He will get random checks and get a monetary penalty for exceeding the limit. A day before the fight he has to weigh in at 170 as usual. At fight time he has to be under or at 187.
In phase 3 the new system is in place and from 4 weeks before the fight all he has to do is never weigh over 187.