Amazon did Beta testing & UPDATED a deal is signed to air PPV (FP still in play)

PurpleStorm said:
It's paying for original programming. Is it interested in sports programming? Wondering if it's an interested party involved in the negotiations we're discussing / speculating about here.
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Who knows, but I don’t think money is a problem for Netflix, Bright alone cost $100 million dollars.
 
ColombianFist said:
A probable test to see if Amazon can perform better than FP. it seems this will give another profit this year for WME. i wonder what would be the future with the declining interest in mma, while WME does all this deals to get cash.
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Is mma declining in interest? I mean around the world? My impression is that more kids are training and more people are viewing especially in newer markets. Not trying to contradict what you're saying. Just wondering if anyone has any fairly good data on any of this stuff.
 
Histalian said:
Good thing not everyone is like you or we'd have no UFC
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That brings up a really interesting point, one that maybe isn't discussed enough. On the one hand, HBO learned that Game of Thrones originally did most well on pirate sites. Younger people would get it free, but then when their parents heard about it they ordered HBO and started watching it. I'm pretty neutral on free streaming. I don't think it hurts the industries that complain about it as much as they may sometimes argue when they take a super hard line stance against it. Information has a tendency to want to get free and shared by people. Who is to say I'm not allowed to buy a book and loan it to a friend? On the other hand I'm comfortable continuing to pay my monthly fee for fights pass because I think it's good value and want mma to thrive. Some of the cable companies seem to be pricing themselves out of the market when you consider how many people have cut the cord. There's no right or wrong answer to any of this but it can be frustrating if for example you're a huge fan of something but can't afford $100 / month on it. You can also talk it up with your friends and for example get together and order an event and split the cost. Or in the case of supporting music artists, go see them live which is where they make their real money. Of course I'm talking in broad generalities. It's definitely something that all parties are considering going forward, including consumers whether or not they discuss it openly or even think on it very much.
 
Seconds_Out said:
This is true. UFC 221 was available to select Amazon employees at a special discount price. I was fortunate to enjoy it. The stream quality was great-- no issues or complaints here.
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Thank you for verification
I was tipped off due to my thread about AMZ trying to get FP (as well as YT), then did some investigation
 
Fahrenheit1221 said:
Am I the only one with Amazon Prime who can tell a mile away that this will never be included with Prime? It'll be an additional cost on top of your Prime membership. You'll still have to pay for Fight Pass. Anything that suggests otherwise seems too good to be true.
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My guess is the library would be included, but not live events
 
ColombianFist said:
A probable test to see if Amazon can perform better than FP. it seems this will give another profit this year for WME. i wonder what would be the future with the declining interest in mma, while WME does all this deals to get cash.
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There was never a chance UFC would not be profitable in 2018.
Without a PPV sold they are a $175-200m a year profit company
With new TV deals, even more-so

But you are deff right that the future will be interesting. A lot of pieces are in play buddy.
 
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PurpleStorm said:
I'd love if they include it with amazon prime. I streamed some of the NFL games that amazon had this past year & it was perfect.
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I can't get antennas to work at my house (way up in the woods) and I don't wanna pay outrageous amounts for satellite. So until I got amazon prime I wasn't able to watch any NFL. I hope amazon does more nfl and mma.
 
PurpleStorm said:
Is mma declining in interest? I mean around the world? My impression is that more kids are training and more people are viewing especially in newer markets. Not trying to contradict what you're saying. Just wondering if anyone has any fairly good data on any of this stuff.
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MMA as a sport is growing, UFC as a product is what i meant. Markets like latin america are not that popular with UFC events like europe or USA. We must consider that other promotions are having a nice success like Rizin, KSW, M-1, ACB MMA etc. the current product is getting stale and it's showing in the numbers of the recent cards, obviously those were events with little star power. but the thing here is WME is making money out of a stale product with no interest of improving it to get more cash out of it.
 
PurpleStorm said:
Possibly. But amazon is also good at what the retail industry sometimes refers to as a 'loss leader.' In other words, spend money and maybe not makes tons of money on something that brings people in, and then those same people are more likely to spend on other stuff that you offer. An example would be a higher end market like Whole Foods having cheap or competitive prices for basic stuff like milk & eggs. Then the customer who comes in might be more likely to buy imported olives that cost 30 bucks or whatever.
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You know Amazon's business model. They care more about revenue than profits. They are still selling shit cheap and don't make as much as people think they do. They want the market share first. They want customers. They could be charging more but don't.
 
PurpleStorm said:
It's paying for original programming. Is it interested in sports programming? Wondering if it's an interested party involved in the negotiations we're discussing / speculating about here.
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Disney is locked and loaded to take on netflix. They got a huge library. All Disney stuff obviously. Star Wars Franchises. Other franchises. The entire library of 20th century FOX and ESPN. lol. They got a lot.
 
ColombianFist said:
MMA as a sport is growing, UFC as a product is what i meant. Markets like latin america are not that popular with UFC events like europe or USA. We must consider that other promotions are having a nice success like Rizin, KSW, M-1, ACB MMA etc. the current product is getting stale and it's showing in the numbers of the recent cards, obviously those were events with little star power. but the thing here is WME is making money out of a stale product with no interest of improving it to get more cash out of it.
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Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. I still watch UFC but also find other promotions exciting each in their own way.
 
Let me know when they’re running an alpha test
 
Nice that Meltzer credited me with the breaking story in his weekly newsletter.
Comes at a good time, as I was just offered a paid position to help an upstart website on the MMA end (waiting on contract)

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Thanks to all that appreciate the info I bring!
 
FrankieNYC said:
This might be a sign that Fight Pass to Amazon (as Meltzer reported) is a strong possibility & part of UFC's changes in product distribution.
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FrankieNYC said:
Nice that Meltzer credited me with the breaking story in his weekly newsletter.
Comes at a good time, as I was just offered a paid position to help an upstart website on the MMA end (waiting on contract)

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Thanks to all that appreciate the info I bring!
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Well done Mr. UFC/Wrestler buisiness follower/personality :D

That's several times now that he's referenced you. Nice to see someone of his stature recognizing & representing.
 
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