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He's still basically undefeated. Anyone who has ever beat him I'm sorry but I just can't give them the credit. And let me go ahead and get this out of the way, this is in no way a nuthugging thread. I'm a fan of Shogun sure but I made this thread because I wanted to make sure certain people knew the facts surrounding Shogun's history. If it wouldn't have been for Shogun's injuries and simply just being the unluckiest fighter in history(the robberies, injuries) then everyone would know already but the fact is even with all his adversities, he's still the best fighter that ever lived.
He lost to Babalu when he was like 18, lost to Coleman by freak injury which he later pointlessly avenged, lost to Griffin in his UFC debut(octagon jitters) which the only fighter I can remember having a great UFC debut was Anderson not to mention Shogun was obviously injured(right knee, couldn't train properly) because he couldn't even lift his arms in the 2nd round but that was yet another fight he ended up h pointlessly avenging. Against Jones he was caught by a flying knee at the start of the fight and didn't even remember the rest of the fight(and he never officially tapped, yeah post the gif, Herb stepped in and stopped the fight and then you see Shogun either tapping after the fact or just hitting the ground out of disappointment that Herb stepped in too early(we'll never know because Shogun was beaten way worse by TRT Hendo and still came back and won or a draw). As for Hendo, first fight we all know was a draw. 2nd fight Shogun killed him but got caught with 1 punch and TRT is all that needs to be said, same goes for the Sonnen loss but Sonnen was an exreme PED case as we all know.
Shogun has the best wins in the history of MMA. The 05 Grand Prix was the most stacked tournament in combat history and Shogun had the toughest road to win at 23 years old, and he did just that beating Arona in the finals who just beat the champion Wanderlei Silva who was undefeated for the 5 previous years.
And I forgot to mention Machida. Everyone knows that the first fight was the most controversial decision in the history of MMA. Shogun deserved the belt that night against the unstoppable, undefeated new era, but Shogun was robbed again and had to prove himself pointlessly again in the rematch by nearly killing him but he decided to get off of him instead because he knew everyone knew what was really going on(UFC hype machine, etc... derailed again).
Last but not least his 2 dominating performances against Big Nog who is the 2nd greatest HW of all time next to Fedor ffs, 1 in Pride against a prime Big Nog and 1 in the UFC. As we all know the vicious ground and pound he displayed in his first fight with him was just hard to watch. They had to carry the legend to his corner as you can see in the pic below, probably out of the arena for all we know. And we all know there was no one ever as tough as a prime Big Nog. Stepping up and fighting heavyweight champions multiple times like he did with Coleman and Big Nog is something I always admired.
What you Sherdoggers think?
He lost to Babalu when he was like 18, lost to Coleman by freak injury which he later pointlessly avenged, lost to Griffin in his UFC debut(octagon jitters) which the only fighter I can remember having a great UFC debut was Anderson not to mention Shogun was obviously injured(right knee, couldn't train properly) because he couldn't even lift his arms in the 2nd round but that was yet another fight he ended up h pointlessly avenging. Against Jones he was caught by a flying knee at the start of the fight and didn't even remember the rest of the fight(and he never officially tapped, yeah post the gif, Herb stepped in and stopped the fight and then you see Shogun either tapping after the fact or just hitting the ground out of disappointment that Herb stepped in too early(we'll never know because Shogun was beaten way worse by TRT Hendo and still came back and won or a draw). As for Hendo, first fight we all know was a draw. 2nd fight Shogun killed him but got caught with 1 punch and TRT is all that needs to be said, same goes for the Sonnen loss but Sonnen was an exreme PED case as we all know.
Shogun has the best wins in the history of MMA. The 05 Grand Prix was the most stacked tournament in combat history and Shogun had the toughest road to win at 23 years old, and he did just that beating Arona in the finals who just beat the champion Wanderlei Silva who was undefeated for the 5 previous years.
And I forgot to mention Machida. Everyone knows that the first fight was the most controversial decision in the history of MMA. Shogun deserved the belt that night against the unstoppable, undefeated new era, but Shogun was robbed again and had to prove himself pointlessly again in the rematch by nearly killing him but he decided to get off of him instead because he knew everyone knew what was really going on(UFC hype machine, etc... derailed again).
Last but not least his 2 dominating performances against Big Nog who is the 2nd greatest HW of all time next to Fedor ffs, 1 in Pride against a prime Big Nog and 1 in the UFC. As we all know the vicious ground and pound he displayed in his first fight with him was just hard to watch. They had to carry the legend to his corner as you can see in the pic below, probably out of the arena for all we know. And we all know there was no one ever as tough as a prime Big Nog. Stepping up and fighting heavyweight champions multiple times like he did with Coleman and Big Nog is something I always admired.
What you Sherdoggers think?