Alt-"right" myth DEBUNKED: 4 reasons why Richard Spencer is a racist LEFTIST!!!

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[...] Why is Spencer getting so much media coverage? The aggressive media play could be, in the words of Daily Wire’s Editor-in-Chief Ben Shapiro, an attempt to paint conservatives and people on the right to all be secret Richard Spencer cabalists.
This could not be further from the truth. [...] Here are four reasons why Richard Spencer is a racist leftist:

1. He badmouths capitalism regularly and promotes Bernie Sanders-style healthcare.

Spencer spouts common leftist mantras, such as: capitalism is evil and exploitative, and big corporations are out to get the little guy. While Spencer does not explicitly acknowledge it, he is a socialist at heart, even advocating that the Right should adopt most of Bernie Sanders’ platform on universal healthcare and other economic issues.

2. He believes individualism and freedom are stupid ideas.

The American right’s ideology is predicated on the freedom of the individual to grow and thrive on his/her own without government intervention. The left, lacking faith in individualism, tends to think people need their hands held by the state and their freedoms restricted. Spencer stated at a recent speaking event at Auburn University that individualism and freedom were stupid concepts. He offers little rationale for his views, which could stem from his belief in racial collectivism.

3. He praises big government programs on a variety of issues.

Along with his advocacy of universal healthcare, Spencer offers big government programs to reinvent public transportation, solve climate issues, and forgive student debt. Even if any of these programs helped anything, which is doubtful, where would the money come from? Presumably higher taxes and higher deficits.

4. It’s a tactic of the left to play identity politics.

The right accepts and celebrates the idea that American and western culture is the greatest culture in the world. We are happy to encourage well-meaning and legal foreigners to assimilate into our culture in order for them to enjoy the benefits of pursing the American ideal. Richard Spencer, on the other hand, rejects the possibility that people either want to or should integrate with other cultures, as cultures tend to oppress each other. So in response to the left’s hard playing of minority racial grievances, Spencer uses the exact same logic to promote white racial grievances.

article: http://www.dailywire.com/news/16491/4-reasons-why-richard-spencer-racist-leftist-zack-miley
 
I don't get why this guy is even a thing. He's not smart.

I think liberals have annoyed people so much that anyone who isn't a giant fat pussy gets popular. All these beta males on Fox and Cnn, all the cowardly liberal comedians. They are such pathetic scum that anything which resembles a man gets a following as a reaction. And someone like Peterson who takes a stand and is actually very smart, explodes in popularity.
 
Hail Trump! Hail our people. Hail victory!

 
I love it. MOOOORE. The national socialists and the international socialists are destroying each other, while I'm in the corner like...

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[...] Why is Spencer getting so much media coverage? The aggressive media play could be, in the words of Daily Wire’s Editor-in-Chief Ben Shapiro, an attempt to paint conservatives and people on the right to all be secret Richard Spencer cabalists.
This could not be further from the truth. [...] Here are four reasons why Richard Spencer is a racist leftist:

1. He badmouths capitalism regularly and promotes Bernie Sanders-style healthcare.

Spencer spouts common leftist mantras, such as: capitalism is evil and exploitative, and big corporations are out to get the little guy. While Spencer does not explicitly acknowledge it, he is a socialist at heart, even advocating that the Right should adopt most of Bernie Sanders’ platform on universal healthcare and other economic issues.

2. He believes individualism and freedom are stupid ideas.

The American right’s ideology is predicated on the freedom of the individual to grow and thrive on his/her own without government intervention. The left, lacking faith in individualism, tends to think people need their hands held by the state and their freedoms restricted. Spencer stated at a recent speaking event at Auburn University that individualism and freedom were stupid concepts. He offers little rationale for his views, which could stem from his belief in racial collectivism.

3. He praises big government programs on a variety of issues.

Along with his advocacy of universal healthcare, Spencer offers big government programs to reinvent public transportation, solve climate issues, and forgive student debt. Even if any of these programs helped anything, which is doubtful, where would the money come from? Presumably higher taxes and higher deficits.

4. It’s a tactic of the left to play identity politics.

The right accepts and celebrates the idea that American and western culture is the greatest culture in the world. We are happy to encourage well-meaning and legal foreigners to assimilate into our culture in order for them to enjoy the benefits of pursing the American ideal. Richard Spencer, on the other hand, rejects the possibility that people either want to or should integrate with other cultures, as cultures tend to oppress each other. So in response to the left’s hard playing of minority racial grievances, Spencer uses the exact same logic to promote white racial grievances.

article: http://www.dailywire.com/news/16491/4-reasons-why-richard-spencer-racist-leftist-zack-miley
He is a right-wing fascist, not a right-wing libertarian.

Big government is not alien to right-wing nationalism. In fact, it's a centerpiece of it.
 
The problem with those four reasons is it doesn't coincide with trump really. Maybe if we are talking tea party type conservatives but I'm fairly certain trump is for big government, cares very little about our system or institutions, and unknowingly at times plays identity politics.

Also, he said during his campaign he was for universal healthcare. The only reason his administration is steered that way is because pence Ryan etc have control
 
The problem with those four reasons is it doesn't coincide with trump really. Maybe if we are talking tea party type conservatives but I'm fairly certain trump is for big government, cares very little about our system or institutions, and unknowingly at times plays identity politics.

Also, he said during his campaign he was for universal healthcare. The only reason his administration is steered that way is because pence Ryan etc have control
Trump is "for" whatever he thinks the prols want to hear.

The ONLY positions he's been consistent on are 1) cutting taxes for him and his rich fuck friends and 2) fucking the environment hard and fast.
 
Yes, if you're prepared to redefine what "leftist" means, you can use that label on anyone you want.

Spencer has become prominent not only because he coined the term "alt-right", but because his movement originated most of the political narratives associated with the broader sense of the "alt-right".
Everything from wounded white identity politics to the cut and paste shitposting.
 
Yes, if you're prepared to redefine what "leftist" means, you can use that label on anyone you want.

If we're going to crunch down the political spectrum into two dimensions, then yes, greater amounts of statism (socialism in this case) are a "left" leaning policy.
 
If we're going to crunch down the political spectrum into two dimensions, then yes, greater amounts of statism (socialism in this case) are a "left" leaning policy.

No, they aren't. Left and right has never had anything to do with the size of government, except according to American Right-Libertarians. Anarchism (as a defined political philosophy) originated on the left.
 
Because the left finds it useful to smear Trump and his supporters as racists. Leftists have done this for years, but are taking to to an unprecedented scale these days. An incoherent nobody is now the supreme commander of the Nazi hordes and is one of the major dark forces behind Trumps win according to liberals. It's a wonderful thing for liberals because they can pretend to stand against the darkness while being greedy power hungry elitist scum.
 
No, they aren't. Left and right has never had anything to do with the size of government, except according to American Right-Libertarians. Anarchism originated on the left.
Yep. One of the five major Russian communist factions.
 
@lecter in all seriousness, your explanation behind the alt-right and how it's separate from the alt-right that just wants to post memes and make liberals cry makes sense, however, are you sure that Spencer was apart of that subreddit that was around for 7 years or so?

I'm still not entirely convinced this guy isn't controlled opposition. He says incredibly dumb shit and is clearly LARPing with that "hail Trump" and other Hitler quote fuckery
 
@lecter in all seriousness, your explanation behind the alt-right and how it's separate from the alt-right that just wants to post memes and make liberals cry makes sense, however, are you sure that Spencer was apart of that subreddit that was around for 7 years or so?

I'm still not entirely convinced this guy isn't controlled opposition. He says incredibly dumb shit and is clearly LARPing with that "hail Trump" and other Hitler quote fuckery
Pretty sure, yes. He's just not a very intelligent person.
 
I hate this fucking bullshit game that some people on the right try to play to disassociate themselves from some of the extremists they have on their side. Spencer is far right, a fascist, a Nazi, a national socialist, whatever you want to call him. He is NOT a leftist just because he wants big government in certain areas. He's a right wing authoritarian not a right wing libertarian. Just like there's a libertarian (or democratic) left as opposed to the authoritarian left. Sadly, both sides seem to be becoming more authoritarian and less libertarian.
 
He is a right-wing fascist, not a right-wing libertarian.

Big government is not alien to right-wing nationalism. In fact, it's a centerpiece of it.


How many right wingers do you know advocate for single payer healthcare?
 
Pretty sure, yes. He's just not a very intelligent person.

LOL, thanks

Yeah, apparently he went on Tariq Nasheeds podcast (generic race baiting retard that uses Twitter in case you don't know who that is) and he had a tough time with him. Tariq Nasheed genuinely could not count to 10 if he tried, and Spencer still embarrassed himself. Sad.
 
The only difference between the Alt-Right and the Far Left is that they are on different side of identity politics (Pro White vs Anti White)
 
LOL, thanks

Yeah, apparently he went on Tariq Nasheeds podcast (generic race baiting retard that uses Twitter in case you don't know who that is) and he had a tough time with him. Tariq Nasheed genuinely could not count to 10 if he tried, and Spencer still embarrassed himself. Sad.


I heard, you know a guy is a moron if he can't even beat Tariq, especially after Tucker clowned him
 
How many right wingers do you know advocate for single payer healthcare?
How many right-wing fascists, you mean? It's hilarious you would ask this after not shutting the fuck up all last year about how Hitler supported universal healthcare.
 
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