Aaron Hernandez CTE

[CWMMA]

Give Shitmandez’s estate part of the billion dollar settlement and move on.

The first CT scan wasn’t even performed until the mid 70’s. Brains trauma research wasn’t even considered widespread until the wars in the Middle East and the link to PTSD. And the science today doesn’t link violence with it except for cases with advanced dementia.

He killed Lloyd because he was a thug. He killed himself because he didn’t want to sit in a cell for 50 years. CTE didn’t cause either.

 

[Dizzy]

Here's the easy one for you:



Literally only one sentence fam

It's not that I don't agree with some of your points, I just don't really give enough of a shit to keep arguing about a dead murderer.

 

[airic_15]

Last time I checked, no one forced him to play football. I'm sick of stories saying how screwed the NFL is for this.. yeah, maybe if they lose money in this lawsuit I suppose. He made a choice to play football just as he did to kill people.

but did he know the effects football could have on his brain? It could of been to late for him like alot of older players the damage could have already been done. Im not taking his side i think he is a piece of shit of a human being but i dont smoke cigs because i know they are horrible for me, but how different was it 50 years ago

Who knows what we will know about CTE in another 50 years

 

[faustian]

It's not that I don't agree with some of your points, I just don't really give enough of a shit to keep arguing about a dead murderer.

I think I deserve some kind of award for being excessively stubbornly tenacious enough to get Dizzy to finally give up on an argument

 

[FootstompShonie]

To be honest I'm tired of people acting like these football players are being tricked into brain damage, it doesn't take a genius to understand you getting pile drived in the head isn't good for your brain.

This has been known since like the early 1900s when people would talk about boxers getting "punch drunk".

I would be interested though in how drug use contributes to CTE as didn't Hernandez do angel dust and shit like that?

 

[faustian]

NFL's new supercool concussion assessment guidelines: "Nah no need for a concussion evaluation here. He's fine to continue the game."

Have to watch this vid on youtube but it shows the H2H hits in slo-mo

My greater concern is the NFL's in-game practice of deliberately not even checking for concussion symptoms in an obviously concussed player and then having doctors clear the mentally helpless player for his coach to send him back out there 5 mins later at risk for more trauma while already in an extremely vulnerable state

Oh guess what Cam suffered a confirmed concussion a few weeks later:

Once you suffer a concussion, any further brain trauma at that point -- especially within such a short proximity of time -- exponentially increases the degree and severity of brain damage incurred. I repeat this point because it can't be stressed enough.

 

[therealdope]

but did he know the effects football could have on his brain? It could of been to late for him like alot of older players the damage could have already been done. Im not taking his side i think he is a piece of shit of a human being but i dont smoke cigs because i know they are horrible for me, but how different was it 50 years ago

Who knows what we will know about CTE in another 50 years

Comparing CTE to cigarettes is dumb. You don't get CTE by sitting in a stadium watching players on the field--- unless you're in the upper deck of an Iggles game.

 

[Final Rehab]

There beautiful archaic codes are defective for the battle of chaos. It is a tragedy, but it's a thread of the lifeforce we are able to taste and take deep inside of us.

Hmmm...so violently banging your head into things repeatedly for years damages the brain? Whoda thunk?

 

[faustian]

I wonder how Hitmandez ended up with the cranial soup of a brain damaged 60yo

I bet he was properly evaluated in good faith, dismissed from the game and given a 6 month medical suspension in all these cases tho amirite

 

[Breakitdown]

I think it's time to put an end to this "sport".

 

[Gregolian]

Didn't he play more downs of college ball than pro level?

 

[Revolver]

@faustian put his law school education to work itt

 

[PolishHeadlock]

Comparing CTE to cigarettes is dumb. You don't get CTE by sitting in a stadium watching players on the field--- unless you're in the upper deck of an Iggles game.

I just read on the Eagles subreddit that one of the posters over there got kicked out of the game as part of some sting operation.

They had an undercover security guard in a Giants jersey and when the poster saw him and yelled "Fuck the Giants" to security guards came over, took his picture and ticket and escorted him from the game.

No he's black listed so if he wants to go to another game he has to spend like $250 to take some NFL ethics course lol

 

[therealdope]

I just read on the Eagles subreddit that one of the posters over there got kicked out of the game as part of some sting operation.

They had an undercover security guard in a Giants jersey and when the poster saw him and yelled "Fuck the Giants" to security guards came over, took his picture and ticket and escorted him from the game.

No he's black listed so if he wants to go to another game he has to spend like $250 to take some NFL ethics course lol

That is hard to believe. Wow. Things aren't what they once were at the vet.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

That is hard to believe. Wow. Things aren't what they once were at the vet.

The 700 Level died with the Vet. Those dudes can't afford to go to the Link.

Also a fun story. My old company had season tickets that they would give to employees throughout the season.

One of the employees bought his rowdy friend with him who almost got into a fight. After the game my boss got a letter threatening to take away his seats.

The Tailgates are still crazy though.

 

[therealdope]

The 700 Level died with the Vet. Those dudes can't afford to go to the Link.

Also a fun story. My old company had season tickets that they would give to employees throughout the season.

One of the employees bought his rowdy friend with him who almost got into a fight. After the game my boss got a letter threatening to take away his seats.

The Tailgates are still crazy though.

I think I might have told you this but I met a Giants fan on a cross country flight who said he would go to the vet just to rile up Iggles fans. Dude was insane.

Also, one of the guys on Foxsports radio was almost tossed off of the upper deck into the parking lot at the vet (he's a Giants fan).

Nothing beats the stories about the jail and courtroom under the vet. Nothing.

 

[Pliny Pete]

I just read on the Eagles subreddit that one of the posters over there got kicked out of the game as part of some sting operation.

They had an undercover security guard in a Giants jersey and when the poster saw him and yelled "Fuck the Giants" to security guards came over, took his picture and ticket and escorted him from the game.

No he's black listed so if he wants to go to another game he has to spend like $250 to take some NFL ethics course lol

My buddy had to take that course after he got in a fight at a bitch ass raiders game
They gave him a fancy little certificate of achievement like in elementary school lol

 

[Fluffernutter]

https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-hernandez-cte-devastating-news-nfl-213810596.html

So apparently his brain was sent over to Boston University, who are currently at the forefront of CTE research, at the request of his attorneys. They found him to have stage 3 CTE, or what is usually found in retired players well into their 60's. Obviously this is extreme damage for someone so young. 27 years old, 44 NFL games, 40 college games. His attorneys are filing a lawsuit against the NFL on behalf of his daughter, not sure what the goal is there. Does this change your view on the situation? What do you think this means for current players, how many are possibly walking around right now with unknown severe cases of CTE? I had no interest in this story until this popped up, now I'm fascinated by what some of the implications could be.

Why didn't his lawyer use this defense in the first place?

It's not like football related brain damage is a new phenomenon in the news cycle...

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Great thread.

I don't think enough people have pointed out that the "he knew what the risks were coming in!" argument is completely and totally missing the point.

The covering up of CTE obscures the knowledge of risk so the NFL actually tried to keep the risks from being known. If, after a decade or so (to put a halfway arbitrary number on it), of widespread information about how common CTE and other injuries are, people still want to practice it then fine, no more lawsuits.

Until then, they deserve to get hit.

 

[lowlife]

Why didn't his lawyer use this defense in the first place?

It's not like football related brain damage is a new phenomenon in the news cycle...

From what I understand CTE is not a valid defense for murder; also currently there is no reliable way to test for it, outside of an autopsy. We're still in the early learning stages when it comes to understanding CTE, clearly.