A solution to Conor's cardio issues......

Run don't bike. You don't bike in the cage. Dump his conditioning coach(weight training, weight loss dude who promotes looking good naked), who harps on about marathon runners dropping dead from heart attacks.
 
Plastikman_Eire said:
I think you would struggle to find a highly ranked fighter who plays to Mcgregor's strengths more than Khabib.

Khabib is 9 fights, and 7 years into his ufc careers, and still uses the same technique to enter the clinch, there is no reason to believe he would change that against Conor.

Mcgregor must get a semi thinking about Khabib wading forward swing his wild arm punches.
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Plastikman_Eire said:
I think you would struggle to find a highly ranked fighter who plays to Mcgregor's strengths more than Khabib.

Khabib is 9 fights, and 7 years into his ufc careers, and still uses the same technique to enter the clinch, there is no reason to believe he would change that against Conor.

Mcgregor must get a semi thinking about Khabib wading forward swing his wild arm punches.
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What is the excuse for Tony?
 
Touch of Death said:
Even as a huge fan of Conor, I am not blind to his flaws.

One flaw which is not talked about a lot is his striking defence which is not particularly great, his striking differential which is (strikes landed - strikes you absorb) is at 1.27 which is not great (5.82 - 4.55).

4.55 strikes absorbed a minute is very high for an elite fighter, if you look at someone who gets hit a lot like Robbie Lawler he absorbs 3.99 strikes a minute, Lawler actually absorbs more strikes then he lands surprisingly. To be fair, if you attempt a lot of strikes a minute you are more likely to absorb them as well.

Here are the current top 10 leaders in strikes landed per minute, in brackets is their strikes absorbed, all this information is from Fightmetric (http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-stats) which I don't think has updated recently as the Fox Sports's stats are slightly different (https://www.foxsports.com/ufc/stats...2&sort=1&opp=0&sortOrder=0&page=1&qualified=1)

1 Leslie Smith - 7.56 (8.41)
2 Cris Cyborg - 7.02 (1.79)
3 Joanna Jedrzejczyk - 6.76 (2.48)
4 Polo Reyes - 6.69 (4.59)
5 Cain Velasquez - 6.49 (2.29)
6 Jessica Andrade - 6.42 (4.94)
7 Joanne Calderwood - 6.28 (4.40)
8 Chase Sherman - 6.25 (5.35)
9 Max Holloway - 6.20 (3.90)
10 Conor McGregor - 5.82 (4.55)

As you can see, Conor has the 4th highest strikes aborbed per minute out of the top 10, and 3rd lowest striking differential. There are a few factors that may affect this, Conor is mostly a striker so he is more prone to being hit compared to wrestlers, if you look at the top 10 leaders for strikes absorbed per minute, it is mostly wrestlers, Pena, GSP, Khabib, Usman etc. Another factor is the small sample size of fights, and how outliers can affect the statistics, both Diaz fights have adversely affected McGregor's stats.

In general, if you look at the current top 10, the majority have great cardio and hence why they are able to push such a fast pace. Conor has a tendency to lose steam as the fight gets longer, he instead should attempt less strikes per minute and conserve energy. However, he is a fast starter and the high output is one of the many reasons for his success and why in general, he finishes most of his fights.

What do you think?
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I read all of that for the genius insight that if he fought at a slower pace his cardio would hold up longer?

Gee, thanks...
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dertdent said:
Run don't bike. You don't bike in the cage. Dump his conditioning coach(weight training, weight loss dude who promotes looking good naked), who harps on about marathon runners dropping dead from heart attacks.
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running = mental grind => conor is mentally weak.
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only reason his strikes absorbed is so high is because of the 2 nate fights while he was exhausted, when he was fresh he was piecing nate up and landing hard counters almost every time nate tried to engage.


his striking defense is fine, he's got better head movement than most in MMA, and will usually counter the fuck out of you if you try and strike with him.


only other fight he was taking unnecessary shots was against mendes, but it was clear he didn't respect mendes and was pretty much telling mendes to go for it, and brushed off everything.
 
dertdent said:
Run don't bike. You don't bike in the cage. Dump his conditioning coach(weight training, weight loss dude who promotes looking good naked), who harps on about marathon runners dropping dead from heart attacks.
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Worse on your joints though and Conor has some knee issues so not ideal.
 
Touch of Death said:
Even as a huge fan of Conor, I am not blind to his flaws.

One flaw which is not talked about a lot is his striking defence which is not particularly great, his striking differential which is (strikes landed - strikes you absorb) is at 1.27 which is not great (5.82 - 4.55).

4.55 strikes absorbed a minute is very high for an elite fighter, if you look at someone who gets hit a lot like Robbie Lawler he absorbs 3.99 strikes a minute, Lawler actually absorbs more strikes then he lands surprisingly. To be fair, if you attempt a lot of strikes a minute you are more likely to absorb them as well.

Here are the current top 10 leaders in strikes landed per minute, in brackets is their strikes absorbed, all this information is from Fightmetric (http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-stats) which I don't think has updated recently as the Fox Sports's stats are slightly different (https://www.foxsports.com/ufc/stats...2&sort=1&opp=0&sortOrder=0&page=1&qualified=1)

1 Leslie Smith - 7.56 (8.41)
2 Cris Cyborg - 7.02 (1.79)
3 Joanna Jedrzejczyk - 6.76 (2.48)
4 Polo Reyes - 6.69 (4.59)
5 Cain Velasquez - 6.49 (2.29)
6 Jessica Andrade - 6.42 (4.94)
7 Joanne Calderwood - 6.28 (4.40)
8 Chase Sherman - 6.25 (5.35)
9 Max Holloway - 6.20 (3.90)
10 Conor McGregor - 5.82 (4.55)

As you can see, Conor has the 4th highest strikes aborbed per minute out of the top 10, and 3rd lowest striking differential. There are a few factors that may affect this, Conor is mostly a striker so he is more prone to being hit compared to wrestlers, if you look at the top 10 leaders for strikes absorbed per minute, it is mostly wrestlers, Pena, GSP, Khabib, Usman etc. Another factor is the small sample size of fights, and how outliers can affect the statistics, both Diaz fights have adversely affected McGregor's stats.

In general, if you look at the current top 10, the majority have great cardio and hence why they are able to push such a fast pace. Conor has a tendency to lose steam as the fight gets longer, he instead should attempt less strikes per minute and conserve energy. However, he is a fast starter and the high output is one of the many reasons for his success and why in general, he finishes most of his fights.

What do you think?
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I think you got way too much time on your hands :D
 
Conor really doesn't have Cardio issues, it's a bit of a myth.

He has made errors in expending to much energy looking for an early finish, but that doesn't really equate to bad cardio.

People forget how gassed Tony Ferguson the cardio king was against against Kevin Lee in the 2nd round.

Or that Nate was also very gassed in the McGregor rematch.

Conor was right when he said it was an efficiency issue.
 
King Joffery said:
Worse on your joints though and Conor has some knee issues so not ideal.
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if you weigh 5000000000000 lbs, you should not do this.

I cant remember exactly, but Im sure someone destroyed that argument.

 
Ilovepizza said:
Conor is mentally weak.
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Thats the last thing he can be accused of, won every title fight he has ever been in. Only fight he lost was a glorified exhibition fight against Nate, won the rematch when the stakes were far higher, the guy is mr clutch when it matters.
 
Touch of Death said:
Even as a huge fan of Conor, I am not blind to his flaws.

One flaw which is not talked about a lot is his striking defence which is not particularly great, his striking differential which is (strikes landed - strikes you absorb) is at 1.27 which is not great (5.82 - 4.55).

4.55 strikes absorbed a minute is very high for an elite fighter, if you look at someone who gets hit a lot like Robbie Lawler he absorbs 3.99 strikes a minute, Lawler actually absorbs more strikes then he lands surprisingly. To be fair, if you attempt a lot of strikes a minute you are more likely to absorb them as well.

Here are the current top 10 leaders in strikes landed per minute, in brackets is their strikes absorbed, all this information is from Fightmetric (http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-stats) which I don't think has updated recently as the Fox Sports's stats are slightly different (https://www.foxsports.com/ufc/stats...2&sort=1&opp=0&sortOrder=0&page=1&qualified=1)

1 Leslie Smith - 7.56 (8.41)
2 Cris Cyborg - 7.02 (1.79)
3 Joanna Jedrzejczyk - 6.76 (2.48)
4 Polo Reyes - 6.69 (4.59)
5 Cain Velasquez - 6.49 (2.29)
6 Jessica Andrade - 6.42 (4.94)
7 Joanne Calderwood - 6.28 (4.40)
8 Chase Sherman - 6.25 (5.35)
9 Max Holloway - 6.20 (3.90)
10 Conor McGregor - 5.82 (4.55)

As you can see, Conor has the 4th highest strikes aborbed per minute out of the top 10, and 3rd lowest striking differential. There are a few factors that may affect this, Conor is mostly a striker so he is more prone to being hit compared to wrestlers, if you look at the top 10 leaders for strikes absorbed per minute, it is mostly wrestlers, Pena, GSP, Khabib, Usman etc. Another factor is the small sample size of fights, and how outliers can affect the statistics, both Diaz fights have adversely affected McGregor's stats.

In general, if you look at the current top 10, the majority have great cardio and hence why they are able to push such a fast pace. Conor has a tendency to lose steam as the fight gets longer, he instead should attempt less strikes per minute and conserve energy. However, he is a fast starter and the high output is one of the many reasons for his success and why in general, he finishes most of his fights.

What do you think?
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Thank You for putting this together. I love objective stats, especially in a sport where the commentators are paid by the promoter. I wonder if McGregor would be able to change his game this late in his career, especially simce it would likely require ditching Kavanagh.
 
bangard said:
What is the excuse for Tony?
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That fight is all about Tony's chin. Mcgregor will land pretty freely on Tony in the first.

Personally, I think Tony beats Conor via being a gritty motherfucker.
 
Touch of Death said:
Even as a huge fan of Conor, I am not blind to his flaws.

One flaw which is not talked about a lot is his striking defence which is not particularly great, his striking differential which is (strikes landed - strikes you absorb) is at 1.27 which is not great (5.82 - 4.55).

4.55 strikes absorbed a minute is very high for an elite fighter, if you look at someone who gets hit a lot like Robbie Lawler he absorbs 3.99 strikes a minute, Lawler actually absorbs more strikes then he lands surprisingly. To be fair, if you attempt a lot of strikes a minute you are more likely to absorb them as well.

Here are the current top 10 leaders in strikes landed per minute, in brackets is their strikes absorbed, all this information is from Fightmetric (http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-stats) which I don't think has updated recently as the Fox Sports's stats are slightly different (https://www.foxsports.com/ufc/stats...2&sort=1&opp=0&sortOrder=0&page=1&qualified=1)

1 Leslie Smith - 7.56 (8.41)
2 Cris Cyborg - 7.02 (1.79)
3 Joanna Jedrzejczyk - 6.76 (2.48)
4 Polo Reyes - 6.69 (4.59)
5 Cain Velasquez - 6.49 (2.29)
6 Jessica Andrade - 6.42 (4.94)
7 Joanne Calderwood - 6.28 (4.40)
8 Chase Sherman - 6.25 (5.35)
9 Max Holloway - 6.20 (3.90)
10 Conor McGregor - 5.82 (4.55)

As you can see, Conor has the 4th highest strikes aborbed per minute out of the top 10, and 3rd lowest striking differential. There are a few factors that may affect this, Conor is mostly a striker so he is more prone to being hit compared to wrestlers, if you look at the top 10 leaders for strikes absorbed per minute, it is mostly wrestlers, Pena, GSP, Khabib, Usman etc. Another factor is the small sample size of fights, and how outliers can affect the statistics, both Diaz fights have adversely affected McGregor's stats.

In general, if you look at the current top 10, the majority have great cardio and hence why they are able to push such a fast pace. Conor has a tendency to lose steam as the fight gets longer, he instead should attempt less strikes per minute and conserve energy. However, he is a fast starter and the high output is one of the many reasons for his success and why in general, he finishes most of his fights.

What do you think?
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You can't really compare lawler to conor....lawler is the king of going the distance...while conor has the vast majority of his fights end in the first round...google how many 1st round ko's this guy has...he absorbs punches, cause he's highly aggressive...but overall, when you're taking everyone out within the first 2 rounds, you aren't going to absorb many punches.
 
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