Do you think you can just lie and use ad hominem phrases to discredit what I've said and done here?
We've been through this point a f ew times, that you always dodge my questions when we go down this road has been shown clearly by this thread.
No I don't "dodge" your questions, don't mislead what's gone on. The fact is I'm not going to bow down and give you a yes or no answer whenever you demand it. You, actually weren't following through with conversation but were halting it to demand an answer from me. You did this before as you well know when asking me incessantly yes or no about you using taqiyya. That was ALL your invention, idea. I did not bring it up once. But you wouldn't let it go, asked me many times and finally I gave you a ball-park percentage which I initially said would happen.
Its clear to multiple people what kind of deceitful games you're playing here so you're really not fooling as many people as you think.
"It's clear" to Muslims and Muslim-apologists in here who are rabid that a fact-based topic was brought up in the War Room quoting no less, the sixth Imam (of Muhammad's own household),
"al-Imam Ja’far al-Sadiq (as) (The Sixth Imam of Ahlul-Bayt [family of the house of Muhammad]) said:
"al-Taqiyya is my religion, and the religion of my ancestors.”He (as)also said: "He who doesn’t practice al-Taqiyya, doesn’t practice his religion."
"It's clear" to the most pious religion on the planet who's whole ideology is based on their idea of works that will save them - the polar opposite of Christianity which says nothing we do will save us except for belief in Jesus Christ as God's Son come in the flesh, the sacrifice for sin for all who believe, the risen Lord. Muslims and Muslim apologists lose their minds everywhere they are exposed using their own "holy" texts (Hadith and Qur'an). They literally can't have any negative association with their belief or practices because they're all about outward piety, earning their salvation, proving the rest of the world are waste compared to them.
It is a shit show though. Its centered around a huge copy pasta OP and some disingenuous conclusions by the TS. Who, for the duration of the thread, dodges simple and relevant questions and continues to push his demonstrably suspect conclusions.
I doubt you read the first three posts because there were comments inserted throughout. It was an honest presentation of taqiyya - the Arabic, Qur'an-derived word. That was it, that was all. Then 22k came in unglued, having not read and/or understood the first 3 posts. This thread is an excellent one, and I'm quite fine with it exposing the lies.
I'm torn between just putting you on ignore or keeping dog piling you ITT.
Do what you think you should do! I'm not putting you on mine, I never have anyone nor do I plan to. But that's up to you if seeing what I write is too difficult.
Yes I did, I even used an analogy to demonstrate my point. Of course you avoided dealing with it because you knew an honest answer would undermine your naive moral standard that all lying is bad.
I never read you once quoting it word for word. Rather, you pressed a yes or no answer to prove a false narrative.
The point, is that there are many acceptable forms of lying in Islam, and when you combine them all, as I told you before, a cultural understanding of "truthfulness" immerges.
I'll just quote a definition straight from one of the Islamic links in the OP:
https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-enc.../al-taqiyya-dissimulation-part-1#introduction
"The word "al-Taqiyya”literally means: "
Concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from physical and/or mental injury.”A one-word translation would be "Dissimulation."
Can you not see how when this is the combined understanding of terms that it's really saying "anything goes" and really, all you have to be is good at it? In fact, older English versions of the Qur'an used to call Allah "the greatest deceiver" (ironically, The Bible calls Satan "The Deceiver" - not a coincidence), newer versions use the word "planner."