6'4 245 is the perfect sized heavyweight

[Whiterabbit]

An nfl end with a highschool wrestling background. Can u imagine Khalil Mack? UFC has only had one freak HW like that.

 

[Iwontmakepromises]

Also might I add

If you want to suck dick yes that face is perfect

 

[Iwontmakepromises]

No such thing as perfect size.

For instance If Jon Jones could not wrestle to save his life, he would be easily swamped and beaten by the smaller, more compact wrestlers because his lanky size would be a disadvantage. Because jones is an exceptional wrestler he negates the disadvantage of having a higher center of mass, which makes you easier to take down/less stable than a shorter fighter. This goes for any lanky or tall fighter, the higher your center of mass the less stable they are.

It is the skills that these men have that negate their negative disadvantages. Without the skills to negate your disadvantages(Struve), fighters will always have problems. It is the ability to understsnd how to use your body along with your talent to shore up your advantages more than your disadvantages.

Juiced up brock lesnar gives jones a few problems

 

[giusti825]

Fedor wasn't 6'.....he was 5'10".....5'11" at most.....

 

[grimballer]

may want to move 6'1 240 pound Cain to the notable exceptions category as he is under 6'2 and weighs less than 245.

as far as height, there are a lot of guys 6'5 and over who are not clumsy playing football and basketball, and of course Lenox Lewis and Riddick Bowe in boxing.

overall, I think there is too much of a focus on ideals here when there are a lot of notable exceptions to the ideals, with Fedor and Cain (when healthy) being the best HW mm artists ever.

Yeah but they dominated when hw division wasn't really packed with monsters

Fedor mostly faced guys around his size (weight wise) or giants with no or very limited mma skills

Once he faced bigger guys with some mma skills like Rogers n big foot, he struggled

Cain did well, however I doubt he would have much success if someone like Howard chose mma instead of ball

 

[InfoWars]

If you want to suck dick yes that face is perfect

.... wut? Just suppose I did want to suck dick... why would that face matter?

Lmao you're pathetic. Come out of the closet and own your cuck instinct. That's you! And you're a strong, proud cuck that don't need no man!

 

[grimballer]

Uh no he doesnt

Id whop lebrons ass myself you ever seen fedor vs bob sapp?

Don't think they ever fought...

 

[Iwontmakepromises]

Yeah but they dominated when hw division wasn't really packed with monsters

Fedor mostly faced guys around his size (weight wise) or giants with no or very limited mma skills

Once he faced bigger guys with some mma skills like Rogers n big foot, he struggled

Cain did well, however I doubt he would have much success if someone like Howard chose mma instead of ball

Howard would get wrecked


He has chicken legs and weak bone structure.

besides jon jones how many tall lanky black men are there in the ufc dominating? Pretty much zero neil magny ship sailed

 

[Iwontmakepromises]

.... wut? Just suppose I did want to suck dick... why would that face matter?

Lmao you're pathetic. Come out of the closet and own your cuck instinct. That's you! And you're a strong, proud cuck that don't need no man!

Thats your picture? So your ben shapiros gay older brother?

 

[grimballer]

Howard would get wrecked


He has chicken legs and weak bone structure.

besides jon jones how many tall lanky black men are there in the ufc dominating? Pretty much zero neil magny ship sailed

Cause they are making real money in NBA/NFL...

Guys like lebron, Westbrook n kwahi Leonard would beat the shit out of any mma fighter if they switched sports

 

[frye666]

Lmao you're pathetic. Come out of the closet and own your cuck instinct. That's you! And you're a strong, proud cuck that don't need no man![/QUOTE]
LOL! Maybe go look up what a cuck is? I think you have a vastly different idea about what it means.

 

[Iwontmakepromises]

Cause they are making real money in NBA/NFL...

Guys like lebron, Westbrook n kwahi Leonard would beat the shit out of any mma fighter if they switched sports

Lol basketball players are not tough. You ever seen the pacers pistons brawl? All those lanky fucks flapping they're arms around not hitting anything. You can see those punches coming from a mile away.

You just grew up in the same culture we all did, black men especially men gerorge foreman muhammad ali lennonx lewis, tall lanky black men were the best fighters on the planet. So you are projecting that believe into thinking basketball players especially the black ones would be the baddest men on the planet.

But if paid attention to boxing black men do not dominate like you are trying to project they do. Most of the champions in boxing right now are irish dudes from england eastern europeans and latinos. Thais own the bottom two divisions. Then obviously you have many dominate black champions across all weights, but not nearly as many as you are trying to project there is. That same trend is seen in modern ufc.

So to assume they would win all the titles because they are black and athletic not only shows you are racist. But it also shows you have barely any knowledge of combat sports. You have 2k likes huh? Just another plug showing all it takes is ass kicking and photoshop skills to get likes around here lol. You have no actual mma knowledge.

 

[BringBackTRTforFairness]

ITS NOT ABOUT SIZE!

ITS ABOUT EFFECTIVE ATTRIBUTES!



HOW HARD DO THEY HIT?

HOW SKILLED ARE THEY?

HOW WELL DO THEY TAKE A PUNCH?

HOW ENDURANCED ARE THEY?

HOW STRONG ARE THEY?

HOW FAST ARE THEY?

HOW MENTALLY STRONG ARE THEY?

HOW SMART ARE THEY?

HOW RANGY ARE THEY?

ETC


TYSON DIDNT WIN BECAUSE HE WAS 5:11 230LBS HE WON BECAUSE HE WAS HIGHLY SKILLED, HIGHLY ENDURANCED, EXTREMELY FAST, EXTREMELY POWERFUL, AND EXTREMELY RESILIENT TO PUNCHES


CARWIN DIDNT WIN BECAUSE HE WAS 270Lbs AND 6 3, HE WON BECAUSE HE HAD SHED LOADS OF POWER IN HIS HANDS, SOME GOOD STRIKING SKILL EVEN IF IT WAS LIMITED, STRENGTH, WRESTLING SKILL, ALOT OF WEIGHT WENT INTO HIS PUNCH SO YES WEIGHT WAS IMPORTANT IN THIS CASE



SO AS YOU CAN SEE WHILE SIZE WEIGHT AND HEIGHT ARE FACTORS THEY ARE LESS IMPORTANT FACTORS AMONG MANY OTHER IMPORTANT FACTORS

ALSO HEIGHT AND WEIGHT ARE LOOSELY CORRELATED TO OTHER FACTORS LIKE POWER , PUNCH RESISTANCE, STRENGTH ETC SO AGAIN THEY MATTER BUT THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY FACTORS THAT GO INTO THE MAKING OF THE TRULY BEST HEAVYWEIGHTS TO DECIDE WHAT HEIGHT AND WEIGHT IS OPTIMAL.

ALSO ATTRIBUTES ARE DIVIDED UNEVENLY AMONG INDIVIDUALS SO THE BEST HEAVYWEIGHTS WILL ALWAYS BE VARIED IN HEIGHT WEIGHT AND TYPE

 

[Cooliox]

Size alone doesn't mean shit.

Its the athleticism that you carry with it.

Brock at 6"3 285 is the most incredible athlete we've had in MMA...

 

[BringBackTRTforFairness]

Size alone doesn't mean shit.

Its the athleticism that you carry with it.

Brock at 6"3 285 is the most incredible athlete we've had in MMA...

Size is loosely correlated with strength , resilience to damage, range, and power, it is negatively correlated with speed and endurance.

Size matters enough to make separate weight divisions, it doesn't matter so much within the heavyweight division, but in the real world it matters a great deal more because it comes with other attributes and as the difference in size becomes great often the difference in attributes does too .

ATHLETICISM IS OVERRATED IN FIGHTING BROCK WAS MORE ATHLETIC THAN CARWIN MORE EXPLOSIVE FASTER ETC BUT CARWIN HIT MUCH HARDER

 

[DespicablePeep]

The perfect size would be the tallest guy who can still maintain athleticism at the size. The reality, however, is that those guys are playing in the NFL or the NBA.

Here we go...

 

[BringBackTRTforFairness]

TemDee said: ↑
The perfect size would be the tallest guy who can still maintain athleticism at the size. The reality, however, is that those guys are playing in the NFL or the NBA

Here we go...

The biggest guy that was also athletic would also suck at endurance so he better finish it early! (bit like Carwin or Lesnar) Like it or not many guys are highly resilient and wouldnt get finished early, so big hole in your theory. Not a bad guess though

Also such a tall guy without much weight would be vulnerable to x2 legs and have to punch down all the time it has its weaknesses too that shape. Wrestling it is not optimized for either, strength too

 

[rjmbrd]

There's no such thing as perfect sized heavy. Just look what fedor did

Got nearly beat to death by Bigfoot Silva, and triangled by Werdum?

Matt @%@^@ Mitrione just took him out.

Fedor's best wins are prime CroCop and prime Big Nog, decision wins, fun fights. Very impressive. But we don't know how he would have done against many of the historically good heavyweights in recent years.

Of course, Crocop got wrecked by everybody when he came to the UFC, and that was right after he won the open GP.

 

[FimbulFightPicks]

You people who mention the NFL, NBA etc you forget there´s more to a fight than physicial attributes. They may have no fighter instincts, no fight iq, and be soft as a teddybear. Its simply ignorant to hst on all mma fighters by acting as if they are all losers and that a random guy could easily wipe the floor iwith em if they chsoe to because he´s an "A" level athlete.

There´s more to it than just the physical looks.

 

[Bubblun]

The perfect size for a heavyweight is having a body like Ngannou, Joshua, Teddy Riner, Mijain Lopez.

Fedor and Couture fought at a time mma was still growing, the big guys they fought were unskilled, today if you are 220 or 230 chubby you are not a heavyweight.