52 blocks

[shincheckin]

52 blocks, this shit again, really? It's Tai Chi for ghetto folks.

its wu-tang clan ish, na im sayin, lol.

 

[Sinister]

are you familiar with the "long guard" in muay thai? its alot like this.

Yes I am. And I'm sure at one point it was referred to as just poor technique or nonsensical bullshit

 

[shincheckin]

Yes I am. And I'm sure at one point it was referred to as just poor technique or nonsensical bullshit

right so what they once thought was bs has even more uses than the one thing being shown here.

 

[Silver tongue samurai]

Ya'll seen Romero with that 52 last night?

 

[William Huggins]

Yes I am. And I'm sure at one point it was referred to as just poor technique or nonsensical bullshit

No, the Thai's used to be more open to different specialist Nak Muay, now they are all starting to look generic in their style.....that's one of the reasons they called it the golden age......

 

[Sinister]

right so what they once thought was bs has even more uses than the one thing being shown here.

That's often how it works out over time:

 

[Sinister]

No, the Thai's used to be more open to different specialist Nak Muay, now they are all starting to look generic in their style.....that's one of the reasons they called it the golden age......

Muay Thai has root practices that snobby modern people would say looked ridiculous and stupid. That on top of being more open to doing things that would normally be frowned-upon.

 

[William Huggins]

Muay Thai has root practices that snobby modern people would say looked ridiculous and stupid. That on top of being more open to doing things that would normally be frowned-upon.

I fear it's pretty much going down that road in the West.

 

[AndyMaBobs]

It got brought up in brief again:
https://sports.vice.com/en_us/artic...ass-in-fighting-ufc-225?utm_vicesportstwitter

Since Romero adopted a bizarre cross guard in his previous fight (with the wrong arm on top, limiting his ability to effectively counter punch), fans of the mythos have been shouting about "the 52." This refers to 52 Blocks, or Jailhouse Rock, a semi-fictional African-American prison martial art which is actually just old fashioned boxing focusing on the cross guard, the high guard, and folding down behind one’s elbows. Any time that a black fighter has flashed even a little bit of cross guard in the last 20 years, speculation has started online over whether they know The 52, conveniently ignoring the success of fighters like Archie Moore, who became an all time boxing great doing this stuff in the 1950s. It doesn’t matter if you learned it in prison, from an old Chinese manual, or from watching professional boxing: getting your elbows in the way of the opponent’s punches is always a good idea.

 

[shincheckin]

 

[StopDucking]

There's an interview of Lyte Burly around here done by poster Discipulus. It's worth a listen. 52 Blocks is probably his favorite thing, for his own reasons, but it's far from the only thing he knows.

I'll also say this about Lyte. I've had plenty of people over the years tell me they were going to come to Tocco's over the internet. That they were going to buck up and make the journey. Of all the times I've been told that I can probably count on two hands the amount of people who have actually shown their faces. DoctorTaco has, zapata has. And this dude:

I try to be open-minded but it looks like Lyte is too focused on getting a fancy block or parry that he's incapable of initiating any kind of offense and would even struggle against a pressure fighter who would stay on him and throw combinations. He probably has years of experience on Daijon yet it seems as though the kid would knock him out if he got serious.

 

[Sinister]

I try to be open-minded but it looks like Lyte is too focused on getting a fancy block or parry that he's incapable of initiating any kind of offense and would even struggle against a pressure fighter who would stay on him and throw combinations. He probably has years of experience on Daijon yet it seems as though the kid would knock him out if he got serious.

Daijon would knock out most of the people on this board. Lyte had the gumption to see that in person.

 

[AndyMaBobs]

I try to be open-minded but it looks like Lyte is too focused on getting a fancy block or parry that he's incapable of initiating any kind of offense and would even struggle against a pressure fighter who would stay on him and throw combinations. He probably has years of experience on Daijon yet it seems as though the kid would knock him out if he got serious.

I agree with you on this,and while I'm not impressed with Lyte, and I'm not convinced by the 52, but I'll defend him little bit and say that hypothetically speaking Lyte may not be the best example, that could be more a Lyte thing than a 52 thing. Someone else who practises the 52 could be more offensively minded and immediately follow up. Like, Adrien Broner is good at the stone wall, but there's a lot of difference between him and Mayweather.

 

[Sinister]

Lyte is just very committed to an idea, and travels all around the U.S. in commitment to that idea. IMO it's very easy to sit in one spot and criticize a guy like that, or to be a hobbyist and criticize him. But in the Cuban Boxing thread, successful trainers with literally ZERO experience were brought up. Lyte actually has a boxing lineage, but JUST boxing is not the idea he's committed to. The idea in and of itself may be flawed, possibly even fatally so, but good stories and experienced often come out of the results of any person seeing through a terrible idea. lol