5/3/1 Assistance Templates: BBB or SS?

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  1. KnightTemplar

    KnightTemplar Infinity Belt Platinum Member

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    Wendler started a thread asking this question on the Elitefts Facebook page. I thought I'd give the guys of F13 a chance to answer it. So if you use 5/3/1, which of these Assistance Templates do you prefer: Boring But Big or Simplest Strength?
     
  2. belph

    belph Pissing into the wind.

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    BBB. Because I dunno what SS is.
     
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    SS = Simplest Strength. It's one major assistance lift for every 5/3/1 lift:

    Incline Bench for Flat Bench.

    Front Squats for Deadlift.

    Close Grip Bench for Military Press.

    Straight Leg Deadlifts for Squats.

    Week One: 3X10

    Week Two: 8/8/6

    Week Three: 3X5

    Week Four: Deload.
     
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    I like the look of SS, personally. Quick, in and out...

    BBB is a great program. I had some really good gains there. HAven't tried SS but it definitely looks like it would fit my schedule better
     
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    I've made good gains on BBB. I'm considering a change to SS, mainly because I intend to increase my Martial Arts training and Conditioning. I think SS might be easier to recover from.

    I find BJJ hard enough without trying to recover from BBB on Squats at the same time.:eek:
     
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    I saw the title and thought SS stood for starting strength.

    How possible do you think it would be to do 5/3/1 and starting strength?
     
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    Combining a monthly progression with a thrice weekly progression? Sounds pretty ******* stupid.
     
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    Or..... AWESOME.
     
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    MONTHLY progression!?!? I thought 5/3/1 was a weekly weight-add, yikes how long does it take to increase numbers on that then? Why would anyone do that?
     
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    Your question makes no sense so here is a three-headed panda shooting rainbows from its mouth:

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    Because if you add 5lbs a month, that's 60 lbs in a year. Continue that out over 3 years and that's 180 lbs...

    Lifting is a marathon, not a sprint.
     
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    I do BBB where time permits and enjoy it but it can definately be a killer. I tend to do it more for bench and o/h press than deads and squats though.
     
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    Same here. I never have any problems recovering from BBB on Bench or SOHP, but Squats BBB kill my legs for a few days afterwards.:eek:

    Funny enough, but my traps hurt more than my legs after BBB on Deathlifts...
     
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    Cratos Banned Banned

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    There's nothing funny/odd about that at all.
     
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    Good. That must mean I'm doing it right, then.:redface:
     
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    If anything I would prefer this.
     
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    excuse me for hijacking the thread but I don't want to start another 531 thread. I have gone through this template squatting 3x per week 4 times now and looking for something new:

    T NATION | Training Lab

    Anyone else have some good templates that they like that are not covered in the first edition of his book?
     
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    Its the philosophy of the program really. Its about starting and training at a heavy, but not max heavy weight. It helps maintain progress where other lifters who train harder might plateau. The reasoning seems solid. Glad to be reading it finally.
     
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    Both templates suck. Wendler is fucking lazy. Do more work
     
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    Because getting string is not a 100m sprint. However in the grand scheme of things you can increase your squat by 60-100 Lbs in a year, which is no joke.

    5/3/1 is a great program and can really work with your life routine.
     

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