Francis' coach is Edmund-tier

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During the fight, after round 2, the coach with the dreadlocks (note: i thought it was the guy with the dreadlocks saying these instructions. Apparently it was the other guy) was instructing in French a gassed Ngannou to grapple with Stipe and go for the guillotine choke.

What kind of asinine advice is that. The last thing Ngannou would want at that point is to engage in a grapplefest with Stipe, let alone killing his cardio even more with a guillotine.

We have a new genius coach in the house.
 
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Yeah clearly he didn't know HTF to coach Francis. He's just like Edmund banking on all that $$$ and hoping his student gets that easy finish. Ngannou needs to go to Tristar.


EDIT: His dreads and extremely deep raspy voice makes him more badass than Edmund. I think they both need to fight it out. My money on Bob Marley
 
Psychedelic said:
During the fight, after round 2, the coach with the dreadlocks was instructing in French a gassed Ngannou to grapple with Stipe and go for the guillotine choke.

What kind of asinine advice is that. The last thing Ngannou would want at that point is to engage in a grapplefest with Stipe, let alone killing his cardio even more with a guillotine.

We have a new genius coach in the house.
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The french dude with the dread locks? The one dude with dread locks in Francises corner was Cooper, and hes an American, do you mean the french guy that holds pads for Francis during open workouts? Or maybe Im missing something?
 
Aforo88 said:
The french dude with the dread locks? The one dude with dread locks in Francises corner was Cooper, and hes an American, do you mean the french guy that holds pads for Francis during open workouts? Or maybe Im missing something?
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Whoever was talking in French. I thought it was the dreadlocks dude.
 
Psychedelic said:
During the fight, after round 2, the coach with the dreadlocks was instructing in French a gassed Ngannou to grapple with Stipe and go for the guillotine choke.

What kind of asinine advice is that. The last thing Ngannou would want at that point is to engage in a grapplefest with Stipe, let alone killing his cardio even more with a guillotine.

We have a new genius coach in the house.
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Have to agree that was bad advice... at the same time... i have no idea what advice would've been good. Go all out and try to knock his head off? Was not gonna happen with his speed and power at that point.

He was basically done halfway through round 2.
 
I'm not saying he did a good job but Dewey Cooper is at least a legit guy. Not some fake like Edmond
 
Lol Damn I wouldn't go that far. Although Ngannou's corner did wrap him in those body armor towels when he clearly was exhausted and looked liked needed to cool off with ice or cold water. o_O
 
Histalian said:
Yeah clearly he didn't know HTF to coach Francis. He's just like Edmund banking on all that $$$ and hoping his student gets that easy finish. Ngannou needs to go to Tristar.


EDIT: His dreads and extremely deep raspy voice makes him more badass than Edmund. I think they both need to fight it out. My money on Bob Marley
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dewey cooper is legit, watched him back in his k1 days. He murders Edmund in a fight. Hes also more or less just a pad guy in the gym, Ngannou has a different actual coach, either way it was shitty advice from him here.
 
I think Rashad touched on this during the postfight. Ngannou looked lost in his corner and he had no one to give him wrestling/grappling advice. Once it became apparent that Stipe was going to be utilizing a pressure based wrestling attack, his cornermen had no effective advice to provide. Francis’s head coach is a boxing specialist by trade and Dewey Cooper is a pure striking coach. Honestly, the guillotine advice wasn’t that bad seeing as Stipe was burying his head on some of his TD’s and Ngannou had theretofore demonstrated that he didn’t have the requisite energy and footwork to keep Stipe from planting him on his back anyways. Might as well go for something.
 
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Psychedelic said:
During the fight, after round 2, the coach with the dreadlocks was instructing in French a gassed Ngannou to grapple with Stipe and go for the guillotine choke.

What kind of asinine advice is that. The last thing Ngannou would want at that point is to engage in a grapplefest with Stipe, let alone killing his cardio even more with a guillotine.

We have a new genius coach in the house.
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Well, that and some head movement could have changed the story, to be honest......
 
Grijswaarde said:
Have to agree that was bad advice... at the same time... i have no idea what advice would've been good. Go all out and try to knock his head off? Was not gonna happen with his speed and power at that point.

He was basically done halfway through round 2.
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Ngannoe needs to develop a good jab to set up is other punches...and he needs to short up his punches and stop winding up...he has tons of power, but if he doesn't land, what good is it...he was missing stipe 90% of the time...
 
bigconan said:
Ngannoe needs to develop a good jab to set up is other punches...and he needs to short up his punches and stop winding up...he has tons of power, but if he doesn't land, what good is it...he was missing stipe 90% of the time...
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I rewatched the fight and most of his punches were extremely wide hooks and upper cuts. He was trying to counter with an uppercut at times too.

Francis also needs to fight taller.
 
Psychedelic said:
During the fight, after round 2, the coach with the dreadlocks was instructing in French a gassed Ngannou to grapple with Stipe and go for the guillotine choke.

What kind of asinine advice is that. The last thing Ngannou would want at that point is to engage in a grapplefest with Stipe, let alone killing his cardio even more with a guillotine.

We have a new genius coach in the house.
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And you waited for N'Gannou to lose to jump on the "his coach is Edmund Tier" ? ...
 
In senior baldrows defense

I did hear him ask francis
To work behind his jab in the 3rd

He actually came out threw 2 jabs
— both connected — and he just stopped right after
 
As much as I've disliked Rousey's hype, Edmund had a top athlete on his hands( at least by WMMA's standard) with a very solid base in grappling, high level S&C, work ethic etc.

He fucked up.

Ngannou's coaches took a guy from the streets and found a way around his obvious limitations- age, cardio, technique- to make him a contender with a bank account.
 
Pretty sure those weren't dreads, his hair was cut to make it look that way.
 
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