Malki is milking Yoels case in order to back up Bones later on

[ExitLUPin]

absolutely repulsive behavior

dude is so transparent

hes gonna be talking about how another fighter is suing for tainted supps

 

[KeiranMc]

 

[Toco]

source?

 

[ExitLUPin]

source?

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/y...nt-that-led-to-2016-usada-suspension.3693025/

 

[Reach4theSky]

I hope Jon comes back..

 

[Rvd Slmr]

Doesn't change anything if Jones didn't mention the tainted supplements in his AC/USADA forms. It's just like the dick pills or whatever they found last time, it's worthless if you can't prove that you actually ingested them.

 

[UsernameLOL]

Doesn't change anything if Jones didn't mention the tainted supplements in his AC/USADA forms. It's just like the dick pills or whatever they found last time, it's worthless if you can't prove that you actually ingested them.

Anyone know if USADA has a list of approved supplements/brands/products?

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Anyone know if USADA has a list of approved supplements/brands/products?

no. for further answers, follow the rabbit hole below.

https://www.usada.org/resources/nutrition/vitamins-minerals-and-other-supplements/
https://www.usada.org/substances/supplement-411/
https://www.usada.org/substances/supplement-411/supplement-411-faqs/

and on JRE a few weeks ago Jeff Novitsky gave Rogan a great overview on how USADA investigates claims of tainted supplements. they get the list from the fighter. they research those companies. they test the leftover supplements. then they buy bottles of those supplements themselves and test those.

mind you, this is not criminal court, and "guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt" is never the main factor here. but it is comprehensive. fact is, the fighter tested +. but if after comprehensive research - and if they believe the fighter* - then they may take those mitigating factors and lessen the punishment.

*they simply didn't believe Chad Mendes, and the investigation didn't support his claims. he got the full punishment.

 

[Rvd Slmr]

Anyone know if USADA has a list of approved supplements/brands/products?

It's the opposite, they have a list of risky supplements. I guess it would be extremely expensive to test everything and act as a FDA surrogate, when athletes could simply use common sense and not buy suspicious shit.

 

[Source]

It's the opposite, they have a list of risky supplements. I guess it would be extremely expensive to test everything and act as a FDA surrogate, when athletes could simply use common sense and not buy suspicious shit.

Doesn’t the UFC UDADA deal allow for fighters to send in their supplements to be tested for them without charge?

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Doesn’t the UFC UDADA deal allow for fighters to send in their supplements to be tested for them without charge?

I'm curious about this as well.

This page https://www.usada.org/can-i-have-usada-evaluate-my-supplements-as-free-from-prohibited-substances/ does specifically say that USADA doesn't endorse anything and recommends 3rd party testing. in 90 or so seconds of google searching i was unable to confirm that USADA will test for UFC fighters.

maybe UFC hires a 3rd party to test?

 

[dim_]

I'm curious about this as well.

This page https://www.usada.org/can-i-have-usada-evaluate-my-supplements-as-free-from-prohibited-substances/ does specifically say that USADA doesn't endorse anything and recommends 3rd party testing. in 90 or so seconds of google searching i was unable to confirm that USADA will test for UFC fighters.

maybe UFC hires a 3rd party to test?

there are various bodies.

informed-choice do trhird party testing and in fact the official UFC supplement company "performance inspired" (which is financially backed by WME) havbe all of their supplements verified by informed-choice

USADA's official line is dont take supplements,although they are softening somewhat and have recently said "if you must take supplements use informed-choice or other third party tested supplements"

 

[SeattleFightFan]

there are various bodies.

informed-choice do trhird party testing and in fact the official UFC supplement company "performance inspired" (which is financially backed by WME) havbe all of their supplements verified by informed-choice

USADA's official line is dont take supplements,although they are softening somewhat and have recently said "if you must take supplements use informed-choice or other third party tested supplements"

and my guess is that Informed Choice tested supplements cost double to triple (solely basing that opinion of costs off my own empirical evidence of what 'certified 3rd party tested non-mercury' fish oil costs vs Costco or Trader Joe's fish oil). which is tough if you're making $8k/$8k, but still takes away the guesswork. thanks (again!) @dimspace.

 

[dim_]

and my guess is that Informed Choice tested supplements cost double to triple. which is tough if you're making $8k/$8k, but still takes away the guesswork. thanks (again!) @dimspace.

nah, not at all .

heres the list of certified products. (click on each logo and it gives you the list of whats certified)

http://informed-choice.org/certified-product-brands

virtually all of the big brands are there, but heres the punch.


All of the stuff that is certified is your bog standard creatine, protein powder, post workout drinks,BCAA's, energy drinks


these guys failing because of contaminated supplements arent failing because of tainted creatine or bcaa's its "tainted" testosterone boosters, stackers, hgh boosters, water cutters etc



but they test positive and say "oh it was tainted creatine", no it wasnt fucking creatine, it was a product called TESTOBOOST or some shit.

 

[Verace]

 

[SeattleFightFan]

nah, not at all .

but they test positive and say "oh it was tainted creatine", no it wasnt fucking creatine, it was a product called TESTOBOOST or some shit.

lol nice.

 

[21 Savage]

Literally; who cares?

Godvitzky already cleared Jonathan.

 

[Deleted member 220895]

The more steroid abusers he manages, the more reason to blame other people and treat it like a pandemic.

Blame the system to avoid getting the blame yourself.

 

[Squall10]

Black explosiveness don't need supplements.

 

[UsernameLOL]

dimspace is the man.