How can UFC keep the best fighters?

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They have 90% of the best fighters in the world. But the veterans will soon retire (many of them got the legacy built in pride, strikeforce, old ufc).

I noticed they are trying to get the champs from other organizations, such as KSW, Pancrase, Deep etc, but they dont have success. This is maybe because UFC already attracts the best fighters, but they lack of stars.

IMO, trying to promote fighters like Gastelum by beating old guys as Vitor or Anderson is wrong. They should really build rivalries between the newcomers. For example at welterweight, between Wonderboy, Ponzinibbio, Platinum, Usman, Darren Till.

How was Pride able to create stars?
 
cyrusthevyrus said:
They have 90% of the best fighters in the world. But the veterans will soon retire (many of them got the legacy built in pride, strikeforce, old ufc).

I noticed they are trying to get the champs from other organizations, such as KSW, Pancrase, Deep etc, but they dont have success. This is maybe because UFC already attracts the best fighters, but they lack of stars.

IMO, trying to promote fighters like Gastelum by beating old guys as Vitor or Anderson is wrong. They should really build rivalries between the newcomers. For example at welterweight, between Wonderboy, Ponzinibbio, Platinum, Usman, Darren Till.

How was Pride able to create stars?
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With nice flashy Reebok Kits.
 
Apparently the idiot fans think that every fighter deseves huge money so the UFC should easily afford paying them all.
 
Irishwhiskey119 said:
Apparently the idiot fans think that every fighter deseves huge money so the UFC should easily afford paying them all.
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From my reading of Sherdog is that nobody deserves a title shot and everyone is overrated and cheating is ubiquitous anyway.

So we at least can agree that fans are idiots.
 
Pride had an extra bit o' violence

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flatten the pay structure. paying the champ two to five million dollars plus and paying the #3 $80k/$80k is not sustainable.

it's also why #4's thru #9's are demanding title fights. of course they are; they cannot afford to work their way up the ladder the old fashioned way. why fight the #2 for $60k and then fight the #1 for $80k and then fight for 7 figures, when you can (at least try to) get to the 7 figures payday faster?

UFC has done a great job raising the entry level wages since TUF. before 2006, $800/$800 was not rare. today it's 10-12x that. but the top 10 guys should be making more too. and it has to come from the headliners.
 
UFC outside of major scandal will always retain 90%+ of the best fighters in the world. They have built the brand that is MMA. Everyone else will always fight for the scraps and a few of those orgs might get a little run here and there.


There isn't a magical formula to create big time stars.

UFC has the game plan to push someone when that someone is on the right path. Number one thing a fighter needs to become a star is charisma and that is something you either have or you don't. It's developed over a long period and isn't just a switch someone turns on one day. Guys like Conor, Chael, Lesnar, Chuck, and Tito are some of the prime examples of guys that fans either love or hate. Either way most fans have an opinion about them outside of their fighting ability and that is why blow joe tunes in and why these fighters cross out of the world of MMA.


P.S.: Pride stars weren't really stars in the US mainstream. Among MMA circles they where but that is peanuts compared to the rest of the population.
 
skylolow said:
UFC outside of major scandal will always retain 90%+ of the best fighters in the world. They have built the brand that is MMA. Everyone else will always fight for the scraps and a few of those orgs might get a little run here and there.


There isn't a magical formula to create big time stars.

UFC has the game plan to push someone when that someone is on the right path. Number one thing a fighter needs to become a star is charisma and that is something you either have or you don't. It's developed over a long period and isn't just a switch someone turns on one day. Guys like Conor, Chael, Lesnar, Chuck, and Tito are some of the prime examples of guys that fans either love or hate. Either way most fans have an opinion about them outside of their fighting ability and that is why blow joe tunes in and why these fighters cross out of the world of MMA.


P.S.: Pride stars weren't really stars in the US mainstream. Among MMA circles they where but that is peanuts compared to the rest of the population.
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How many UFC stars were really mainstream? Just Ronda and Conor...Brock doesn't exactly count.
 
they do keep the best fighters, get rid of older fighters and fighters who bring in no money but think they are worth more than they are..
 
Paradigm said:
How many UFC stars were really mainstream? Just Ronda and Conor...Brock doesn't exactly count.
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I'd say through the years they had some. You never going to have like 6 of them on the roster at the same time. There is also varying degrees of mainstream. I'm not sure they have ever had a truly household name star. But they have had stars that multiple platforms of media that never give MMA a thought wanted a piece of those stars and that is how the UFC can sell 750K+ in PPV's. They had there share of guys like that through the years.
 
Make fight night bonuses worth more money and prestige? Between cowboy, nate, and lauzon, there are 40+ UFC bonuses with exactly 2 title shots given to these guys. I'm not saying they should have gotten shots that they didn't, but 50k just isn't worth it.
 
Fairness would go a long way. For example give title shots to those who earn them.
 
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