Is cutting a lot of weight outdated?

[MCS]

Someone made a point on Embedded that the real damage is done more so when cutting too much weight nowadays instead of the damage in the cage. Drain yourself too much and you give up energy and have to recover for a size difference alone, while damaging your body going through these tough cuts.

Do you think there's truth to this, also with the IV ban and the increased testing? A lot of guys like Woodley and Bisping look healthier on fight week than a few years ago. Kennedy was supposed to be the bigger man, but lacked energy. Pettis failed the cut and Max looked to have more energy. But then again you have guys like Conor who looks miserable making 145, yet performs well in the cage.

 

[Ancient Warrior]

Not at all.

All the current greats built an entire career at being expert weight cutters. It's been done in boxing for generations as well.

 

[dildos]

No man, it is the future!

 

[MCS]

Not at all.

All the current greats built an entire career at being expert weight cutters. It's been done in boxing for generations as well.

Yeah but the IV ban and the stricter testing for dietary supplements makes a lot of guys come in leaner to fight week.

 

[muaytao]

depends on the fighter and how they cut weight...pettis was eating steak!

 

[ithinktheymad]

It is redundant in the sense that since everyone cuts weight in theory everyone is essentially needlessly dehydrating themselves to fight a guy they'd fight in the division above. Only both of them cut weight lol.

 

[MCS]

It is redundant in the sense that since everyone cuts weight in theory everyone is essentially needlessly dehydrating themselves to fight a guy they'd fight in the division above. Only both of them cut weight lol.

The idea is to cut more to get an edge and yep, you're right that often means the other guy is forced to do so for competitiveness, but it's often wrestlers who do this extensively and look joocy on fight night, but also tend to gas.

It's more difficult to do today since you can't just have IV's next to you and there's a higher chance you'll get caught (or in trouble) with various PED's that help with weight cutting and the long list of banned dietary supplements on top of that.

 

[ShadowOfDeath]

Someone made a point on Embedded that the real damage is done more so when cutting too much weight nowadays instead of the damage in the cage. Drain yourself too much and you give up energy and have to recover for a size difference alone, while damaging your body going through these tough cuts.

Do you think there's truth to this, also with the IV ban and the increased testing? A lot of guys like Woodley and Bisping look healthier on fight week than a few years ago. Kennedy was supposed to be the bigger man, but lacked energy. Pettis failed the cut and Max looked to have more energy. But then again you have guys like Conor who looks miserable making 145, yet performs well in the cage.

You have a point. Cutting weight has advantages, but its counter productive to go too far. Think of Rumble Johnson trying to make welterweight. The right weight cut is when they are still strong and have a bit of a physical advantage. if you are naturally at 165 lbs, than you can cut to 155 as being 170 can be a disadvantage

 

[Congo66]

Pettis failed the cut and Max looked to have more energy.

And Max thinks he cuts more weight than Pettis but the difference is that he knows how to do it.

 

[Supereem]

It is redundant in the sense that since everyone cuts weight in theory everyone is essentially needlessly dehydrating themselves to fight a guy they'd fight in the division above. Only both of them cut weight lol.

Until you get to HW

 

[Rvd Slmr]

I'm still laughing at how Joe said that Tim has an elite cardio and won't get tired, and yet he gassed by the end of the first round while doing what he wanted against a smaller fighter. WTF was that?

 

[ithinktheymad]

Until you get to HW

Did you really think we were talking about the fat boys?